Creep mode, Am I the wrong one?

[Palros]

I really like 1 pedal driving. The fact the car only moves when I put my foot on the throttle is something i have really become used too. Both my Model 3 and my wifes leaf drive work like that, so we have both got very used to it.
Here is the problem, Every other EV i have driven (ID3 and Niro) both have no way of turning off creep mode. Its not so bad going forwards, but in reverse its very easy to feel like you are out of control of the car. I get why this is an option, some people may like this as the move over from the ICE car. But having driven EV's for 2 years, no for me, the lack of ability to turn this on/off makes them non-starters for me.
Am I the wrong one here? Should this not be something that can be set as a user preference like it is on the leaf and Teslas.
PS: if anybody know of any EV's that do have "true" one pedal driving like leaf and tesla, please let me know.

 

[Limey]

People should be in control of the vehicle at all times, you are not with "creep" (personally think it shouldn't be allowed)

1 pedal driving + hold > everything else!

 

[UncleCreepy]

The Chevy Bolt has it, too, but only for "Drive". It always creeps in reverse.

Whether or not you're wrong lies in the eye of the beholder. I like my settings, but I'll still have a beer with you if yours are different.

 

[Mr H]

I think VW etc should realise that EV’s have been around for a while now and people are not stupid. I also hate the ‘B’ mode they have for regen that you have to activate every time you drive. I won’t be buying one of their cars until they start listening to customers

 

[LoudMusic]

I honestly thought all EVs had the one peddle option with hold and no creep and active regen. It sounds like I need to do some test drives!

 

[Palros]

I think VW etc should realise that EV’s have been around for a while now and people are not stupid. I also hate the ‘B’ mode they have for regen that you have to activate every time you drive. I won’t be buying one of their cars until they start listening to customers

When the salesman told me that I just said "your joking right".

 

[mrsniffles]

I had an ID3 (until it became too problematic and I ended up selling it back to VW) and I actually liked the B mode. The roads I travel on mean I very rarely need to come to a complete stop.

That said, to answer the original question... the BMW i3 has one pedal driving and will come to a complete stop. Although I think that model's not long for this earth.

 

[Palros]

I had an ID3 (until it became too problematic and I ended up selling it back to VW) and I actually liked the B mode. The roads I travel on mean I very rarely need to come to a complete stop.

That said, to answer the original question... the BMW i3 has one pedal driving and will come to a complete stop. Although I think that model's not long for this earth.

Thanks, but given the I3 is basically a Mini now. There is hope.

Edit: Just noticed they dont do a Longer range Mini... Shame

 

[Durzel]

The Peugeot e-2008 GT I’ve got on a temporary subscription creeps, but also doesn’t hold properly on hills? Worst of both worlds. Was nice to drive my Model 3 and be able to come to a complete stop with one pedal driving.

 

[Palros]

The Kia Salesman told me that Auto Hill hold is the same thing. At that point, i knew he had no idea what i was talking about.
I was quite tempted to say "let me show you how this should work" and hop into my car.

 

[Need]

To Creep or Not to Creep?

I've heard different opinions from owners about whether or not they leave creep on or off, and why they choose one or the option. I've had creep on since the beginning, but now am considering turning it off, and would like to hear the experience and opinions of other owners.

teslamotorsclub.com

Creep ON or OFF?

No need for excitement. When on an uphill slope, use the accelerator exclusively, and let gravity stop you. When facing downhill, use the brake exclusively. When on level ground, use the accelerator to achieve a speed of an inch or two per second, and have plenty of time to use the brake to stop...

teslamotorsclub.com

Non-Creep folks here outnumber the Creepy folks 2 to 1. I actually have Creep on with both my Model 3 and Model X. My wife and I are both creepy. Unless you never again have to drive an ICE, it is easier to just have it on so you don't have to re-train yourself when you have an ICE rental. Also with creep on, it is less motion sickness for me. When my mom sits in the Tesla, we have to have creep AND chill on so she does not get motion sick.

 

[SpareHeadOne]

People should be in control of the vehicle at all times, you are not with "creep" (personally think it shouldn't be allowed)

Automatics creep in drive and reverse, as far as I know they always have. You control the creep speed using the brake, if you are not in control of the car in that situation then that's more of a reflection on your driving skills than anything else.

Having come from an auto to my Tesla I expected I would be most comfortable using creep but it took me around ten minutes to decide that I prefer hold and I'm getting pretty good at judging stopping distances with regen only now although I make a point of doing some heavy braking a few times a month to keep the discs clean.

 

[MrT3]

PS: if anybody know of any EV's that do have "true" one pedal driving like leaf and tesla, please let me know.

The polestar 2 is true one pedal. I assume the Volvo XC40 is too but I've not driven one so cannot confirm.

 

[UncleCreepy]

[...]although I make a point of doing some heavy braking a few times a month to keep the discs clean.

This is a myth that never seems to die. Teslas automatically engage the friction brakes every now and then (just a little bit, it's hardly noticeable if at all). There is no need to do that manually, at least if it's occasionally cold or wet.

From the manual:

Brake Disc Wiping​

To ensure brakes remain responsive in cold and wet weather, Model 3 is equipped with brake disc wiping. When cold and wet weather is detected, this feature repeatedly applies an imperceptible amount of brake force to remove water from the surface of the brake discs.

 

[Durzel]

Water yes, surface corrosion/contaminants? Not in my experience.

I put my M3P into neutral and coast down a local hill when driving into work, to scrub the surface crud off the disc. I pretty much never use the brakes otherwise.

(I think pre-2021 cars might have stronger regen? It’s a setting on my car)

 

[UncleCreepy]

I never really worried about my brakes and I don't seem to have surface corrosion. Then again, if it's only half true what they say about the rain in England, we might both be right in our personal experience

 

[Adopado]

I never really worried about my brakes and I don't seem to have surface corrosion. Then again, if it's only half true what they say about the rain in England, we might both be right in our personal experience

You clearly haven't seen my discs! Lucky you if you don't have any surface corrosion. Long periods of damp weather and salt on the roads in winter ... it's a killer.

 

[Overworked]

Automatics creep in drive and reverse, as far as I know they always have. You control the creep speed using the brake, if you are not in control of the car in that situation then that's more of a reflection on your driving skills than anything else.

Having come from an auto to my Tesla I expected I would be most comfortable using creep but it took me around ten minutes to decide that I prefer hold and I'm getting pretty good at judging stopping distances with regen only now although I make a point of doing some heavy braking a few times a month to keep the discs clean.

That is my experience exactly too.

 

[SpareHeadOne]

Yep, it's surface corrosion I'm trying to keep away.

I don't tend to be very heavy on the brakes in my cars, so I've had problems with surface corrosion in the past and as a result it's become a bit of a habit to try to prevent it.

 

[Neilio]

Creep is just the weirdest thing IMHO. Essentially you are introducing a new type of drivetrain so you can eliminate limitations of the previous ones. It seems bizarre to me to have an option to artificially activate a limitation.