That's not a downside if you want to keep your brake disks nice and cleanThe only downside is it can't come to a halt at the lights without a bit of brake usage. I'd like the option to have creep only in reverse
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That's not a downside if you want to keep your brake disks nice and cleanThe only downside is it can't come to a halt at the lights without a bit of brake usage. I'd like the option to have creep only in reverse
Well the "they have always been like that" argument isnt really valid. And yes, you SHOULD always be in control, but there have been plenty of creep mode accidents where a car has driven over someone in creep, so lets bid farewell to something that only actually existed to stop the early torque converters from over-heating.
I can attest that hazard lights do come on automatically if you emergency brake.In an ICE vehicle using engine braking you could "advertise" the severity of braking by pumping the brakes - flashing the brake lights.
Only option now might be to turn on the hazard flashers when emergency braking.
I wouldn't call a mode "failsafe" that, with no user input, continues to move the car. I think most people who prefer creep mode are really saying that's what they are used to .. we all naturally feel more comfortable with what we are used to, so that's not surprising.Basically Creep mode has a failsafe built in whereas the other option doesn't.
I can attest that hazard lights do come on automatically if you emergency brake.
Handy feature as I’m not sure I’d have enough wits about me to remember them immediately in an emergency.
Not done an emergency stop in my Tesla yet (touch wood!)
As for "not enough wits" there's another flaw in using *my* hazard flashers as the button is next to the e-call button in the roof so I have a 50:50 chance of stabbing the wrong button!
(pre 2021 Model 3's had both an e-call button and hazard flasher button in the roof controls, current models only have a hazard button now)
I wouldn't call a mode "failsafe" that, with no user input, continues to move the car. I think most people who prefer creep mode are really saying that's what they are used to .. we all naturally feel more comfortable with what we are used to, so that's not surprising.
I wonder what people would think if hold mode was universal and car makers tried to introduce creep mode. I suspect everyone would be very scared of a car that could move by itself with no pedal input.
I find that my foot never leaves the brake. I gently feather the braking force to get the speed I want.I suppose I mean you hover your foot over the brake so any sudden movement will stop the car instantly. And it goes no faster than walking speed anyway.
the alternative could be a sudden movement accelerating your car backwards.
It's not a binary situation. You can lift you foot a little to go much slower, or a lot to go faster.Have to say I was very surprised how fast the car ‘creeps’.
A lot of that is to do with unfamiliar cars. Even going from my own automatic to an automatic hire car took a bit of learning. When I get a manual the learning takes a little bit longer.Having driven almost exclusively manual ice cars for 27 years on the few occasions I’ve had to drive an automatic I’ve absolutely hated the creep. Trying to get an unfamiliar automatic into a tight parking spot without it lurching forward and backwards is horrible.
They both behave almost exactly the same. The only difference is what pedal you use to control the speed. Thank heavens for choice!Hold just seemed perfectly natural. I find it very hard to understand why anyone would want it any other way
You should be moving it up and downBut having to pull the gear stalk backwards to go forwards and forwards to go backwards I can never get used to. Why?
I don’t get this! In my car in creep mode if I take my foot off the accelerator and don’t put my foot on the brake to engage hold the car the car slows down and then creeps excessively fast with my foot on neither pedal. Are you suggesting that if I put my foot on the accelerator a fair bit it will go slower and if I then lift it a lot it will go faster? Surely not!It's not a binary situation. You can lift you foot a little to go much slower, or a lot to go faster.
Mum’s the word… [squints both ways] …In my case, I was never in the army, I just drove an old personnel transport "tank" as an activity in another country once