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It is refreshing to see someone who orders a Model Y because they just want a decent car, rather than a complete Tesla nerd like the rest of us! Haha
I agree. It is hard for me to empathize with someone who knows very little about car. My older brother was quick to remind me that not EVERY cares about Tesla's. He literally knew nothing about it other than it was fast and expensive. I said, "Yep those are the two stereotypes.." I started to explain some of the tech and funny stuff like the whoopie cushion and he changed his tune a little.
 
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It is refreshing to see someone who orders a Model Y because they just want a decent car, rather than a complete Tesla nerd like the rest of us! Haha

Some average people, especially the elderly can also be misled. Had an elderly friend buy an ID4 recently. Asked him why he didn't buy a Tesla. He said his son did all the research and recommended the ID4 to satisfy their requirements:

1. They wanted an SUV. They were told Model X is the only SUV Tesla has and it's too expensive for them.
2. They were told all other Tesla cars are smaller than the ID4. Reality check: Model Y is bigger in every dimension, except 0.5 inch shorter.

Because of these reasons, they bought a brand new ID4. Today I heard them say that it takes 1.5 hours for them to charge at a high capacity outside charger (not sure where they charged, exactly), and they are dreading a 3-hour waste of time to charge twice on a 300+ mile (one-way!) road trip they would like to take! (Second charge to make sure they have sufficient charge when they reach the destination).

I felt sad that they were misled. Their son is a well-educated, white collar professional guy in his 30s. Pretty sure he knew about Teslas and the Model Y. Don't know why he got his parents to go for an ID4 with all the attendant hassles. (And, don't know why they didn't check with me once before making the final decision!).
 
In a current situation that I need a little advice on.
We sold my Husband’s Fit and he took over driving my 2021 Bolt. I daily drive my 2020 Miata because my commute to work is only 7 miles.

Fast forward to Friday and my Bolt has been recalled with no idea when Chevy will fix the Bolt. So we’re pursuing buyback from them.

In the meantime, I’m debating jumping on a current inventory MYP or just changing our order from LR to P so we can get into it faster.

Thoughts? Ideas? His commute is 55-60 miles each way so he uses ALL the range of the Bolt when charged to 90 percent and drained down to 70 miles.
*Chevy is recommending only charging to a max of 90%, which is 180 miles, and not letting it get below 70 miles and only charging it outside and not leaving it plugged in*
My advice: switch cars. The Bolt is a short-distance car, until they figure out the battery problem. Good for around-town, not long commutes. Let him drive the Miata until you get the Tesla. Unless you've got a good back-up plan if the Bolt breaks down during the commute. He's the one in the bow-tie? :)

Your MY order will be 3-4 months after your order date, assuming no new manufacturing issues for Tesla. So probably December. End of Q4 for west coast deliveries.

If you want a Tesla sooner, your only choice is to jump on current inventory.

My 2 cents, worth every penny you spent on it.
 
My advice: switch cars. The Bolt is a short-distance car, until they figure out the battery problem. Good for around-town, not long commutes. Let him drive the Miata until you get the Tesla. Unless you've got a good back-up plan if the Bolt breaks down during the commute. He's the one in the bow-tie? :)

Your MY order will be 3-4 months after your order date, assuming no new manufacturing issues for Tesla. So probably December. End of Q4 for west coast deliveries.

If you want a Tesla sooner, your only choice is to jump on current inventory.

My 2 cents, worth every penny you spent on it.
He can’t drive stick 🤦🏻‍♂️

I secretly want the MYP for its speed, but I desperately don’t want those 21” wheels.

I’m assuming I could pick up a smaller set of wheels aftermarket or sell/trade them for 19” wheels?
 
Kids today. Sad.

Teach him. He'll get 3-4 months of practice, and be an expert by the time your MY delivers. Otherwise, be sure you've got a good backup plan if the Bolt breaks down during the commute.
Why would it break down, though? For the last 4 months I’ve charged it from as low as 5% all the way up to 100% and had no issues. GM is just trying to CYA on the fires so they’re instructing everyone to not run them completely down or charge them completely up. It isn’t a matter of it breaking down, just attempting to keep any of them from catching fire. That’s what I don’t want to happen is it catch fire.

I’ve taught him how to drive stick, but he only drove in parking lots never on the street.
 
With a June 5th order date, I just wish there was some rhyme or reason to how delivery dates get calculated. For example, is the issue my config? Outside of switching to a MYP (which I don’t want) is there a change to my order that would speed up the process? The chip shortage is definitely a factor in the delays but a 10/11 - 10/31 EDD doesn’t make sense. This experience has definitely taken some of the luster off the Tesla shine for me. We have a 2021 M3LR lease. When it’s up my first move won’t necessarily be to get another Tesla. I’m excited to see what other EVs are available in the coming months. Needing to work with the car dealership doesn’t feel like a “deal breaker” any more.
 
Some average people, especially the elderly can also be misled. Had an elderly friend buy an ID4 recently. Asked him why he didn't buy a Tesla. He said his son did all the research and recommended the ID4 to satisfy their requirements:

1. They wanted an SUV. They were told Model X is the only SUV Tesla has and it's too expensive for them.
2. They were told all other Tesla cars are smaller than the ID4. Reality check: Model Y is bigger in every dimension, except 0.5 inch shorter.

Because of these reasons, they bought a brand new ID4. Today I heard them say that it takes 1.5 hours for them to charge at a high capacity outside charger (not sure where they charged, exactly), and they are dreading a 3-hour waste of time to charge twice on a 300+ mile (one-way!) road trip they would like to take! (Second charge to make sure they have sufficient charge when they reach the destination).

I felt sad that they were misled. Their son is a well-educated, white collar professional guy in his 30s. Pretty sure he knew about Teslas and the Model Y. Don't know why he got his parents to go for an ID4 with all the attendant hassles. (And, don't know why they didn't check with me once before making the final decision!).
That actually really unfortunate, in a couple of different ways:

1. Their son did not know that Model Y existed, and thus were not cross-shopping between ID.4 and Model Y
2. They did not know how to smartly use a DCFC. Charging 1.5 hours means they were either using a slower charger (and not Electrify America) or they were trying to charge to 100%

In reality the ID.4 is a fantastic car with an impressively flat charging curve. All the little features and amenities like massaging seats, power roof sunshade, CarPlay, and the way it drives like a combustion car makes it a very easy transition. That being said, driving 300+ miles on a highway road trip means charging to 100% immediately before departure, driving ~220 and running battery down to 5%, stopping at an EA station for 20 mins max for 150 miles, and be on your merry way and charging at the final destination. Use those 20 mins to get food + water, stretch, and bathroom. The biggest problem is people treating a battery like a gas tank, and filling it ALL the way up. The same applies to any Tesla, as you can easily sit at a SC for well over an hour trying to squeeze in those final kWh as the battery tries to rebalance cells. Just because you could, does not mean you should.