Yes, and you take the Waymo approach as the gospel, what of it? I believe I've stated it pretty clearly, I believe in the Tesla approach to FSD, that is why I put my money in Tesla products.
Waymo is not an authority to me because I do not see me being able to use their product for the next 10 years. Someone, somewhere at some specific time and route can benefit from Waymo, but that's not a solution that provides value to me.
And I've seen more real progress on Autopilot (not articles/videos) then I've experienced with ALL other "FSD" claiming companies combined.
Yes, Karpathy is an authority to me on FSD.
Waymo has shown real FSD that Tesla has not shown yet. That is why I hold Waymo has an authority. But no, I don't take their approach as gospel. I try to listen to all approaches. I have great respect for Karpathy. But I don't ignore other experts either.
Your post clearly shows your bias. You reject any authority that you disagree with and you only accept authority that you agree with. Karpathy is not the only authority on FSD! You can think that Waymo is not useful to you because you can't use a Waymo car yet and that is fair, but they are an authority on FSD nonetheless.
Do people who work with hd maps even disagree that they require maintenance and might be cost prohibitive in the long term? I haven’t seen anyone contradict what Karpathy is predicting (no one is saying hd map construction and maintenance is cheap).
No, they don't disagree that they require maintenance. Don't be silly. Nobody is arguing that HD maps are free and require no maintenance. And like I said, maybe HD maps are too costly for Tesla. That could very well be true. The question is whether the cost and maintenance is an acceptable bargain for the benefits. Clearly, there are a lot of FSD company who feel the cost of HD maps is worth it. And if HD maps are a total dead-end and too costly, why does every company use them in their FSD?