I am posting this in the general forum for visibility to both X and S users.
Hopefully a familiar disclosure:
Ever wondered what that was exposing outside of the movies discussed in the AP2.0 Cameras: Capabilities and Limitations? thread?
I am concentrating on the AP-reported stuff here, the big screen computer reports quite a bunch more of additional data.
@DamianXVI wrote a cool decoder for "autopilot trip logs", like this one: AP2.0 Cameras: Capabilities and Limitations?
(sidenote: it looked like past 17.44, even if you uncheck both the checkboxes in the data sharing dialog, the autopilot trip log was still collected and sent to Tesla (in prior releases the data was not collected if you uncheck the checkboxes). I do not know if this was a bug and it's now fixed or if it was a policy change and have no way to verify this anymore).
Anyway, so to the topic at hand, the trip_log.pb contains coordinates of your trip placed into buckets of whenever autosteer was available, used and so on.
Here's a part of my grocery trip sometime last year:
As you can see while somewhat coarse, it still shows you a pretty accurate depiction of the entire trip.
Longer trips are also captured of course, here's one a day before I needed to turn the unicorn in:
Colors: red for suspected autosteer enabled, green - autosteer possible, blue - impossible.
Bigger version of the second trip:
https://imgur.com/a/0GWtnXY
All of this is pretty cool actually, but a little bit scary with all the tracking (then again, if you carry an android phone, Google has even more detailed tracking of your movements, I guess).
What other things I have noticed: the "anonymization" is actually pretty superficial. Every trip (from the moment autopilot started to the moment autopilot is powered off) is given a unique uuid, and every snapshot taken during that uses the same uuid, even if some internal fields are cleared for "anonymized" uploads, internally the trip id is still stored, combined with camera calibrations uploaded every other minute under the same trip id without any anonymization - connecting the dots back together is actually pretty simple. And of course looking at enough trips it's also pretty easy to see that "this must be home, now who lives there from our customer database"? Obviously timestamps are also all there.
What would have been even more cool actually is if this was a post by Tesla, and with even more details to explain what is actually collected and how is it used and safeguarded and such. At least with Google there's the timeline and you can see what's stored and even delete some parts (not sure how really deleted are those deletions of course).
Edit: not sure why, but the pictures don't attach like they usually do.
Hopefully a familiar disclosure:
Ever wondered what that was exposing outside of the movies discussed in the AP2.0 Cameras: Capabilities and Limitations? thread?
I am concentrating on the AP-reported stuff here, the big screen computer reports quite a bunch more of additional data.
@DamianXVI wrote a cool decoder for "autopilot trip logs", like this one: AP2.0 Cameras: Capabilities and Limitations?
(sidenote: it looked like past 17.44, even if you uncheck both the checkboxes in the data sharing dialog, the autopilot trip log was still collected and sent to Tesla (in prior releases the data was not collected if you uncheck the checkboxes). I do not know if this was a bug and it's now fixed or if it was a policy change and have no way to verify this anymore).
Anyway, so to the topic at hand, the trip_log.pb contains coordinates of your trip placed into buckets of whenever autosteer was available, used and so on.
Here's a part of my grocery trip sometime last year:
As you can see while somewhat coarse, it still shows you a pretty accurate depiction of the entire trip.
Longer trips are also captured of course, here's one a day before I needed to turn the unicorn in:
Colors: red for suspected autosteer enabled, green - autosteer possible, blue - impossible.
Bigger version of the second trip:
https://imgur.com/a/0GWtnXY
All of this is pretty cool actually, but a little bit scary with all the tracking (then again, if you carry an android phone, Google has even more detailed tracking of your movements, I guess).
What other things I have noticed: the "anonymization" is actually pretty superficial. Every trip (from the moment autopilot started to the moment autopilot is powered off) is given a unique uuid, and every snapshot taken during that uses the same uuid, even if some internal fields are cleared for "anonymized" uploads, internally the trip id is still stored, combined with camera calibrations uploaded every other minute under the same trip id without any anonymization - connecting the dots back together is actually pretty simple. And of course looking at enough trips it's also pretty easy to see that "this must be home, now who lives there from our customer database"? Obviously timestamps are also all there.
What would have been even more cool actually is if this was a post by Tesla, and with even more details to explain what is actually collected and how is it used and safeguarded and such. At least with Google there's the timeline and you can see what's stored and even delete some parts (not sure how really deleted are those deletions of course).
Edit: not sure why, but the pictures don't attach like they usually do.
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