Please be at least 100kW..........please be at least 100kW..........
The Tesla EU CCS adapter is ~142kW, so I would think that the Tesla one would be similar.
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Please be at least 100kW..........please be at least 100kW..........
The CCS2 adapter in Europe seems to need changes to the car. From the CCS2 adapter manual:Im not sure if this is just plug and play like the Chademo adapter or does it require mods to the car.
Given the difference in signalling protocols between Tesla/Chademo and CCS, this doesn't seem surprising to me.Specifications
Use only to connect the charge cable on a CCS Combo 2 charging station to a Tesla Model S or Model X vehicle that is capable of Combo 2 DC charging.
Note: Vehicles built before May 1, 2019 are not equipped with CCS charging capability. To install this capability, please contact Tesla service.
They don't make the only one that is currently on the market, which was the original subject of this thread. I was tempted to buy that one, until the rumors of this Tesla one appeared.Tesla makes the adapter, so I assume they're not worried about "somehow damage or degrade the battery."
Not if it makes it ridiculously expensive. I'd be far more interested in a 35kW adapter for $200, than a 200kW $750 adapter.Please be at least 100kW..........please be at least 100kW..........
150kw would be amazing, that's pretty much the limit of the SR+ anyway. It'd be as good as supercharging.Please be at least 100kW..........please be at least 100kW..........
Not if it makes it ridiculously expensive. I'd be far more interested in a 35kW adapter for $200, than a 200kW $750 adapter.
I just want something to fill in gaps in the supercharger network and give me other charging options.Interesting, I would pay more for higher speeds, but I have a salvage and can't use supercharging. I rely on 3rd party fast charging for travel.
I just want something to fill in gaps in the supercharger network and give me other charging options.
Sorry. There are a couple of threads on this subject. I wasn't paying attention to the original subject.They don't make the only one that is currently on the market, which was the original subject of this thread. I was tempted to buy that one, until the rumors of this Tesla one appeared.
Yes, but the Korean adapter is 200A (or about 80kW) so the Tesla adapter might be similar. Of course I'm hoping for at least 150kW.The Tesla EU CCS adapter is ~142kW, so I would think that the Tesla one would be similar.
Not if it makes it ridiculously expensive. I'd be far more interested in a 35kW adapter for $200, than a 200kW $750 adapter.
I held off on buying one initially because it was pretty apparent that CCS was the way forward. If the CCS adapter is significantly more expensive, then I may end up going that way, despite the dead standard.If you want a 35kW adapter get the chademo one
Yeah, I think for EA and EVGo or state or local agencies looking to install chargers, Tesla switching to the common standard (even just to the extent of putting out an adaptor) is great. I'd love to have to compete against Teslas for charging spots, because it increases the odds of the people running them building more. Agencies or companies wouldn't have to pick which type of charger to install, just decide to install a charger, period.So i was thinking about this. companies like EVgo and electrify america have to want this to be a thing right? I get that other CCS cars likel don't want tesla filling up their chargers but the companies have to want the business so they can get over the chicken and the egg hump right?
A CCS adapter wouldn't just serve to replace the DCFC Chademo adaptor, it'd probably also be able to replace the existing Level 2 J1772 adapter. Two parts and things to lose become one part.
You definitely could build a CCS adapter with live AC pins which can also do J1772, but you're right they could also choose not to bother. However, making those pins live and the signaling to have it work for both is a little more money per unit. I just think it'd be silly to skimp on maybe $10-15 in additional cost that let a single adapter do a job which otherwise two adapters are needed for.Probably not. The CCS adapter would route the extra two DC pins on the bottom to the charge port, and the upper AC pins wouldn't be wired to anywhere. You would still need the J1772 adapter for AC charging.
You definitely could build a CCS adapter with live AC pins which can also do J1772, but you're right they could also choose not to bother. However, making those pins live and the signaling to have it work for both is a little more money per unit. I just think it'd be silly to skimp on maybe $10-15 in additional cost that let a single adapter do a job which otherwise two adapters are needed for.
Huh, so Tesla uses the same pins for AC and DC on the car side, with some switching on the car side the adapter would have to match? I hadn't realized that. If so, it does could like it'd be more complex than the adapter they've shown (though probably something you could do with something more like the Setec version).I think it would be more involved than that. You would have to have multiple contactors in the adapter to route the charge port pins to either the AC or DC pins in the adapter. That would be either two or four rather large contactors that would need power from somewhere to operate. So the adapter would be much bigger, more complicated, and more costly. I would say there is a 0.001% chance that Tesla would do this. (And given the picture of the adapter that has been shared I would say that there is a 0% chance that that adapter can be used for AC charging.)
Huh? Was that run thru Google Translate a few times? I cannot make heads or tailsIf so, it does could like it'd be more complex than the adapter they've shown (though probably something you could do with something more like the Setec version).
Huh? Was that run thru Google Translate a few times? I cannot make heads or tails