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Deleting inappropriate Supercharger recommendation from route?

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by PaulR, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. PaulR

    PaulR Member

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    O.K., maybe I missed it.

    I have seen discussions of "insane" or "inappropriate" recommendations for Superchargers stops on a routing in order to alleviate "range anxiety". But when it is obvious that particular Supercharger stop is wrong, I need a way to delete it from the navigation route. The only obvious choice the software offers is "removal of all Superchargers" on the route. But I just want to remove one! How do I do that?

    My routing seems to assume that I always need to top off at a local Supercharger at the beginning of my trip, when, in fact, I have a HPWC at home and could do so there and skip the first Supercharger recommendation. I guess I could charge to 100% and maybe it would skip that Supercharger recommendation, but it still doesn't answer my question.... how to remove only one from the listing.

    Is this a beta software issue, or is this an ESO problem? :confused: (Equipment Superior to Operator)

    Thanks.......
     
  2. rickgt

    rickgt Enthusiast owner/member

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    Good point... I've regularly seen extra short charger stops. Would be nice to remove one and have it recalculate a better route!
     
  3. mknox

    mknox Well-Known Member

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    I've turned it off for now. I was trying to route a trip and it wouldn't map it beyond the first Supercharger on the route even though I knew I didn't need the stop and didn't want to stop there. I couldn't figure out how to get it to actually route me to the final destination I entered because it would end at that first unnecessary Supercharger.
     
  4. AnOutsider

    AnOutsider S532 # XS27

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    "Remove all charging" (or however it's worded) wasn't available?
     
  5. scaesare

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    And here I thought your title was referring to deleting the suggestions of some PEOPLE on this forum regarding inappropriate supercharger usage recommendations...:tongue:
     
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  6. David99

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    I use it on long trips to see an overview of my entire route, but then I cancel the navigation and pick the next Supercharger and navigate leg by leg. The system just doesn't work. Always adds unnecessary stops and each time you get out of the car and back in, the navigation is stuck and only shows 'calculating...'. How good is a navigation system that adds charging stops but then locks up each time you do a stop?
     
  7. mknox

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    To be honest, I just got frustrated and turned it off.

    I was trying to plan a trip from Point A to Point B and there was a Supercharger station mid trip. I didn't need the Supercharger stop. The routing would only go from Point A to the Supercharger and wouldn't show me anything between the Supercharger and Point B so it was pretty much useless. I wanted to see the total trip miles and time but, as I say, could only see it to the Supercharger. Once I turned the feature off, it did my A to B route just fine.
     
  8. FlasherZ

    FlasherZ Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv

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    I sent the following feedback message to Tesla after my 2,700 mile trip the past 2 weeks:

     
  9. PaulR

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    It's interesting how much "anxiety" is caused by "doing away with range anxiety" isn't it? I wonder if Mr. Musk actually uses his navigation system.... I posit that if he did, this would have been fixed a long time ago. At least I am not alone in this.

    I hope someone reads FlasherZ's feedback.
     
  10. Nevek

    Nevek Overt Member

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    I use exactly the same method after some frustrating experimenting.
     
  11. ddimit

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    +1 same for me , either has me going to too many stops or does this weird routing which i know is way long than the normal route I drive to socal. So now i just plug into to the next SC stop i know i will need to hit. knowing the limitations I can go from 5 to 2 SC's if i fully charge at home before the trip.

    With a full charge it wants me to hit a SC 60 miles into the trip. I think the calculation algorithm is so weak it just makes the decision to hit every SC along the route!
     
  12. PaulR

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    +1 on all of the answers, at least, regarding the fact that the algorithm (if you could call it that) which Tesla uses is weak, but no one has answered my original question... how to delete a single (or more if needed) Supercharger from the suggested Supercharger listing? My conclusion is that it cannot be done. :confused:.

    Guess I have to keep my iPhone or iPad to use Waze for navigation, and use EVTrip Planner (written by an teenager who has not even entered college yet) to calculate refueling stops. I guess one day Tesla will get it right..... The kid who programmed EVTrip Planner asks for donations toward his college fund, maybe Tesla should buy his program and send a promising, deserving, smart young kid to college - maybe even offer him a job! Thanks for the feedback guys. :wink:
     
  13. AnOutsider

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    It could also be that, like others components of the car, the software works amazingly well within California :wink:
     
  14. smsprague

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    I have mine off - it works remarkably poor - leave my house with a 260 charge going to Super charger 150 miles away wants me to stop at Super Charger 60 miles away - I think it just wants you to visit every possible Super Charger for fun
     
  15. 1101011

    1101011 Proud TSLA/SCTY shareholder since 2012.

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    My thoughts exactly. The kid did a remarkable job, consequently it is my first step in planning each long distance route. Think of what he could do if integrated directly into Tesla's Nav Dept.
     
  16. CalDreamin

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    I agree completely. EV Trip Planner works very well. It would be fantastic if Tesla would buy the code from the teenager who developed EV Trip Planner so it can be integrated into Tesla's Nav system.
     
  17. Dutchie

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    Strange, I thought the planner looked at the route and take the current actual charge of the batteries into account. If you are near empty then it will send you to a nearby supercharger first. If you are fully charged skip you can skip the first supercharger. I would have thought that would not be too difficult to programme.
     
  18. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    Last Saturday I was in Paris (about 90 miles from home) with 160+ miles of rated range left. Selecting home as my destination, it routed to the Ardmore SC 135 miles away (and another 100 miles from home). After removing all charging stops, it still didn't route using the shortest way.
     
  19. TES-E

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    Exactly what I did on my recent trip to Fremont. I also had the 'calculating...' problem.
     
  20. caddieo

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    I have yet to take my first long trip in the S and this seems to be the best way mentioned thus far for avoiding the described frustrations. I will keep it mind for future use. Thanks.
     

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