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Denmark: P90D sticker price to increase 180% on Jan 1 2016

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  1. THKS

    THKS New Member

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    Danish parlement today announced a political compromise on future taxation of electric vehicles.

    Evs priced above 800k DKK (120k USD) are to be imposed a 180% registration fee. EVs below 800k will have the 180% registration fee imposed over five years starting with 20% of the fee in 2016 growing to 40%, 65%, 90%, 100% from 2017 to 2020. The registration fee is levied after a 25% VAT (sales tax). The finer print on calculating the registration fee stipulates various minor reductions for safety, emissions, etc. But in rough terms these are only minor reducing the actual levied fee to about 170%. Hence the the fully equipped P90D will go from 1.2m DKK December 31 to about 3.1m DKK on Jan 1!

    No wonder all used high end Teslas have 'call for price' on the various used car sites. I suspect a spike in parallel import of high end Tesla's leading up to December 31! Happy days!

    News source in Danish http://politiken.dk/indland/politik/ECE2879509/regeringen-indfoerer-gradvis-afgift-paa-elbiler/
     
  2. THKS

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    Slight miscalculation on the new price more like 2.9m DKK (calculating the registration fees are not straight forward), which equates to 440k USD for full equipped P90D.
     
  3. Electric700

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    This is ridiculous! A 180% sticker price increase? :scared: They should be doing this to ICE cars.

    We need to start lobbying the Denmark Government.
     
  4. jeffro01

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    Ouch... It's hard not to see that and make a political comment... :)

    So I'll just say ouch and be done...

    Jeff
     
  5. Cyclone

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    I echo Jeff's sentiments.
     
  6. efusco

    efusco Moderator - Model S & X forums

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    The irony being that their next door neighbor, Norway, offers essentially 50% off the price of a new EV/Tesla Model S due to not having to pay the 100% car tax that's otherwise imposed.
     
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    I'm fairly sure the Danish government isn't interested in the opinions of non-citizens on their tax policy.
     
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    HOLY $HIT! So a $100,000 car is $100K + 25% + 180% of that = $350,000?!!!! :scared::scared::scared: I think they're in desperate need of a taxation revolt.
     
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    We saw several EVs when I was in Denmark this summer, so it's particularly interesting that they would be targeted.
    brown tesla denmark.jpg
     
  10. kejsermad

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    I have news for you all.

    All ICE cars in Denmark are ALREADY taxed with 180% tax plus 25% VAT! :cursing:
     
  11. S'toon

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    It's actually a match of the ICE tax. It's why there's a HUGE spike in orders in Denmark right now, and Bjorn is out of the running for the Tesla P90D upgrade.
     
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    Sounds like the rest of October factory production should go to Denmark......:wink:
     
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    Maybe this is one of the secret demand levels Elon talked about -- didn't he recently visit Denmark? :cool:
     
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    Please nominate any government interested in citizen's opinions (at all, never mind taxes) other than to regurgitate as lip service during election campaigns.

    p.s. some countries have 100%+ across the board import tariff on almost all vehicles ... even when they don't have local production of cars or the equivalent local industry to "protect." I think many governments will begin this "market" price racket in earnest as the TPP monster raises its head and demands to be fed. Fuel and energy prices, insurance, wheat, platinum, water, metals, ... prices will "adjust" in these ways.

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    Given Tesla appears to be production limited, whatever windfall might happen as the local market responds, once the tax axe falls, it cuts off forward sales.
     
  16. shokunin

    shokunin P85 & S40

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    There's 2 chances for each region to win the car.. The first was to win a X for the first person to refer 10 people and to take delivery of 10. I think Bjorn is on the way to win that if he hasn't already. Even if you refer 100 people today, they'll likely not take delivery before bjorn hits 10 deliveries.

    The second was at the end of October whoever has the most referrals can then trade in their S for an X. In both cases, it's contingent on delivery and not just orders.
     
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    Taxation has historically run very high in Scandinavia compared to the U.S. This is either a great idea or a huge burden, depending on your political views, but personally I will just say I admire how well-run the Danish gov seems when I visit there.

    I just wonder, with a MS costing north of $400K US, if anyone will be able to afford them after the new year.
     
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    Well, it's just be no different than a Danish citizen buying a USD $70k-130k ICE car. As others have mentioned, they're just making the EV taxes match those of ICEs.
     
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    Sure but how many Danes can afford a $70-130k ICE with that much VAT? Can you imagine how ownership of a $100K car would diminish in the US if the tax were 100%? I almost certainly wouldn't have a Tesla right now.
     
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    Unless you see similiar taxes on private jets, artwork or yachts. I would be annoyed that the Government is penalising my aim to put my family in a clean, efficient and safe motor vehicle.i
     

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