Welcome to Tesla Motors Club
Discuss Tesla's Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y, Cybertruck, Roadster and More.
Register

Did anyone receive another software update today?

chasemym3

Member
Apr 10, 2018
41
16
Riverside, CA
Got the notification and upgraded this morning. I noticed that the AP lane changes are WAY better. Smoother, more natural, and well paced . Love it. The nag to touch the wheel is on steroids and seriously needs to be reconsidered. I think the nag is actually an unsafe distraction now. Really sad about this change. Lastly boy can it see other lanes cars now! Maybe this is why lane changes are better?
Can anyone beat TEN cars in front?
View attachment 309103
View attachment 309103

View attachment 309104

I just got 21.9 last night. My biggest gripes are the decreased time between hold the wheel prompts and lane changes that won't work. Twice yesterday I initiated a lane change but it wouldnt go and there were no cars anywhere near me.
 

chronopc

Active Member
Jul 8, 2017
2,873
2,719
California
I disagree about the nag. As long as I hold the wheel, I get fewer nags. Wheel holding is more sensitive and get fewer false positive nags when I'm holding wheel
Interesting that you are getting fewer false positive nags? Where you do hold the wheel?

I hold the wheel towards the bottom of the wheel with my right hand and I'm getting tons of false positive nags.
 

SlicedBr3ad

Member
Feb 25, 2017
922
828
Fl
Interesting that you are getting fewer false positive nags? Where you do hold the wheel?

I hold the wheel towards the bottom of the wheel with my right hand and I'm getting tons of false positive nags.
I usually do the 4 or 8o'clock wheel hold with one hand.
 

insaneoctane

Active Member
Apr 6, 2016
3,432
5,574
Southern California
What bugs me here is that it doesn't notice my hands when I'm lightly holding the wheel. That's how I expect to use EAP, I shouldn't have to apply purposeful torque every 20 seconds, I might as well drive myself. I got SEVEN nags in less than 3 minutes. Either they fix this ridiculousness, or else I bought a $5K nothing-burger. The current hyper-nag system is unacceptable to me and one that I'll just stop using and rely on TACC if something isn't fixed. Sad.
 

miimura

Well-Known Member
Aug 21, 2013
6,077
5,670
Los Altos, CA
What bugs me here is that it doesn't notice my hands when I'm lightly holding the wheel. That's how I expect to use EAP, I shouldn't have to apply purposeful torque every 20 seconds, I might as well drive myself. I got SEVEN nags in less than 3 minutes. Either they fix this ridiculousness, or else I bought a $5K nothing-burger. The current hyper-nag system is unacceptable to me and one that I'll just stop using and rely on TACC if something isn't fixed. Sad.
I don't have the new update yet, so I don't know if this works or not. Have you tried resting your hand at the 9 or 10 o'clock position and letting the weight of your hand and forearm apply a constant torque to the wheel?
 

chronopc

Active Member
Jul 8, 2017
2,873
2,719
California
What bugs me here is that it doesn't notice my hands when I'm lightly holding the wheel. That's how I expect to use EAP, I shouldn't have to apply purposeful torque every 20 seconds, I might as well drive myself. I got SEVEN nags in less than 3 minutes. Either they fix this ridiculousness, or else I bought a $5K nothing-burger. The current hyper-nag system is unacceptable to me and one that I'll just stop using and rely on TACC if something isn't fixed. Sad.
I would be interested in someone making a video that shows what the car recognizes and what it doesn't in terms of hands on the wheel.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PoitNarf

insaneoctane

Active Member
Apr 6, 2016
3,432
5,574
Southern California
I don't have the new update yet, so I don't know if this works or not. Have you tried resting your hand at the 9 or 10 o'clock position and letting the weight of your hand and forearm apply a constant torque to the wheel?
When I'm shadowing EAP, I put both hands on the wheel at 3 and 9 o'clock positions. It's symmetric and harder for the torquers to notice. I really liked the nag timings the way they were, I didn't mind/notice them. That is certainly not the case today.
 

insaneoctane

Active Member
Apr 6, 2016
3,432
5,574
Southern California
Every time it nagged, I hit "lap". Just consider this:
Screenshot_20180612-174619.jpg


No less than seven nags in UNDER 3 minutes. Blasphemy!
 
  • Like
Reactions: ICUDoc

harcocjh

Member
Apr 23, 2015
78
82
Chicago, IL
Every time it nagged, I hit "lap". Just consider this:
View attachment 309454

No less than seven nags in UNDER 3 minutes. Blasphemy!

I saw a video and also read it on another thread that said resetting the computer could possibly help. Worth a shot maybe. Can you try it and post back with your results?

I got the notification about the update last night but have so far held off because I use autopilot a lot on my drives to and from work which are over an hour each way and I'm happy with the frequency of the nags currently. Don't wanna make it worse. If there were other significant improvements like say it was much better about phantom braking or cars cutting in or something then I'd probably do it and just adjust my driving style some. But just to see more cars on the display and have it slow down at off ramps I can live without that for now.
 

SlicedBr3ad

Member
Feb 25, 2017
922
828
Fl
What bugs me here is that it doesn't notice my hands when I'm lightly holding the wheel. That's how I expect to use EAP, I shouldn't have to apply purposeful torque every 20 seconds, I might as well drive myself. I got SEVEN nags in less than 3 minutes. Either they fix this ridiculousness, or else I bought a $5K nothing-burger. The current hyper-nag system is unacceptable to me and one that I'll just stop using and rely on TACC if something isn't fixed. Sad.
this is on you. the point is that you're supposed to take over. if you're holding wheel lightly enough, you won't have the strength to take over. i'm probably wrong but that's their thinking for nagging you some more. man up and put some elbow into it :)
 
  • Disagree
Reactions: insaneoctane

insaneoctane

Active Member
Apr 6, 2016
3,432
5,574
Southern California
this is on you. the point is that you're supposed to take over. if you're holding wheel lightly enough, you won't have the strength to take over. i'm probably wrong but that's their thinking for nagging you some more. man up and put some elbow into it :)
Fully disagree If I'm required to "man up", why am I pretending it's helping? With the previous system, I was able to suppress the nag almost instantly, because my hands and attention were there. Rarely did it even get to the blue flashing speedo. At the old frequency all was good...But dealing with that every 20 seconds? No thank you.
 

miimura

Well-Known Member
Aug 21, 2013
6,077
5,670
Los Altos, CA
I had to abort an AP lane change because some irresponsible twat decided to pass on my right at super-legal speeds after I had already initiated the lane change. In order to avoid him slamming on his brakes and spinning out in the crapbox he was driving, I overpowered the steering wheel and abruptly swerved back into my original lane. The amount of force required and the amount of overcompensation swerve was alarming. I won't be doing that again. In the future I will tap the brakes or push up on the right stalk and more calmly take over steering.
 

insaneoctane

Active Member
Apr 6, 2016
3,432
5,574
Southern California
I had to abort an AP lane change because some irresponsible twat decided to pass on my right at super-legal speeds after I had already initiated the lane change. In order to avoid him slamming on his brakes and spinning out in the crapbox he was driving, I overpowered the steering wheel and abruptly swerved back into my original lane. The amount of force required and the amount of overcompensation swerve was alarming. I won't be doing that again. In the future I will tap the brakes or push up on the right stalk and more calmly take over steering.
I've fought EAP routinely for steering control and feel confident doing it. It seems that on the freeway that lane changes would require the highest torque and thus the most challenging to abort. I do think that the more you do it the more you know what to expect and the easier it will be ...
 

SlicedBr3ad

Member
Feb 25, 2017
922
828
Fl
I had to abort an AP lane change because some irresponsible twat decided to pass on my right at super-legal speeds after I had already initiated the lane change. In order to avoid him slamming on his brakes and spinning out in the crapbox he was driving, I overpowered the steering wheel and abruptly swerved back into my original lane. The amount of force required and the amount of overcompensation swerve was alarming. I won't be doing that again. In the future I will tap the brakes or push up on the right stalk and more calmly take over steering.
Or you could have cancelled lane change by cancelling blinker signal.
 

SOULPEDL

Supporting Member
Jul 25, 2016
2,885
10,788
Arizona
I had to abort an AP lane change because some irresponsible twat decided to pass on my right at super-legal speeds after I had already initiated the lane change. In order to avoid him slamming on his brakes and spinning out in the crapbox he was driving, I overpowered the steering wheel and abruptly swerved back into my original lane. The amount of force required and the amount of overcompensation swerve was alarming. I won't be doing that again. In the future I will tap the brakes or push up on the right stalk and more calmly take over steering.

Just a suggestion, maybe relax your steering sensitivity so it doesn't over-correct. Sport is like a go-cart so you must be quicker than the car. Any rapid change could trigger a slight fishtail event and correction needs to be immediate. That's how most people lose control and roll their vehicles, especially when wheels hit gravel then pavement again.

I love the fast control but I also grew up driving in snow >40 yrs ago. A controlled slide is fun for me and I don't have to think about it. It's also why I like RWD only.
 

About Us

Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.

Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


SUPPORT TMC
Top