See, that's the difference. I don't need to slow down and I have zero anxiety. The good news is we are both happy with our choices.I see it exactly the opposite. I use the passing speed every day but how often would I take the car past 270 miles and use the extra 24 the 90D provides? I know from 10k miles of road trips I can slow down 5mph and get that extra range when needed.
The beauty of it is that Tesla offers both choices so all of us are happy!
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Dilemma: 90D vs P90D?
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Could be P100D with Plaid for all we know. I agree it will be more money but my point is if you're willing to spend ~$140k on a P90D Ludy why not ~$150k for P100D Plaid which will be faster AND have the added range. It's just money! Maybe it will do a 10.9.
Unless he just wanted or needed the extra 24 miles, he wouldn't need to slow down either.
He's saying, and I agree with him, I'd rather have the extra performance, that I use every time I'm behind the wheel of my car, than to have 24 miles (more in my case as mine is a P85D with Ludicrous), to go along with the several other miles that I never get down to.
But again I'd agree. The good news is that we're all happy with our choices.
And, if I'm not mistaken, you were lucky enough to be part of the $5k Ludy upgrade group which was, comparatively speaking, a great deal. It's double that on a new order as you know.
Could be P100D with Plaid for all we know. I agree it will be more money but my point is if you're willing to spend ~$140k on a P90D Ludy why not ~$150k for P100D Plaid which will be faster AND have the added range. It's just money! Maybe it will do a 10.9.
Thought Maximum Plaid was coming with the new roadster.
Next Tesla Roadster coming in 4 years, will go plaid
Personally I wouldn't wait for Plaid to show up in a Model S P100D before it showed up in the roadster.
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You're not mistaken.
And yes I do know that it's double that on a new order and has been since 7/17/15.
Of course Ludicrous is a better deal at $5k than it is at $10k. However a P85D vs a P90D is not quite an apples to apples comparison in that you are getting a newer car and one with more range if those things are important to you.
But I don't believe that's the matter at hand.
Ludicrous at $5k, well unless you took possession of, or ordered a P85D prior to 7/17/15, is not an option.
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I believe you're right that you get the 50% of base price plus 43% of options guaranteed trade in after 3 years if you finance.
Everyone's debt tolerance is different. For some reason I was getting the impression you were paying cash, so I was gonna smile if you ended up splurging on the P90D.
But even the 90D comes to like 110k, and with 30k down is around $1.1k/month. Have you worked out what your total cost to drive would be after 3 years, factoring in down payment, monthly payments, less tax credit/rebates, and adjusted for however over/underwater you are when trading in after 3 years, as compared to the remaining principle on your loan?
Does it work out to around $20k per year? (My rough guess)
I never borrow money to buy cars. Actually, I don't owe any man woman or beast in this universe a penny for anything. I know I'm conservative, but $20k/year on a car sounds like a waste, especially if after those 3 years you have no car to show for it. And really especially if you're depending on income to make the loan payments. And remember this is the 90D I'm talking about. I didn't even price out the P90D.
I was cheering for P90D. But now I think I'm flipping. If you're simply thinking to finance because the rate is low, and you think you can do better with your cash somewhere else, while locking in your resale value, then sure, you sound like someone who could very well find yourself regretting you didn't get the P90D - in that case I'd smile if you went for it.
But if you don't have the liquid assets to cover the cost of the car, even if you have a great monthly income, then my vote is don't get sucked into wanting the status symbol, and go 90D.
RogerHScott
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Getting OT, but...
In order to pay cash for my 90D I would have had to sell investments which, after tax, are returning significantly more than the
interest I'm paying on my auto loan. How on earth would that make sense? Furthermore, by taking out a loan I was able to
acquire GAP insurance which, as far as I can tell, is simply not available any other way. If some fool is willing to lend at under 2%
it seems self-destructive to refuse them. I have a similar problem with the ruckus over the national debt: if the rest of the world is
willing to foot the bill for our party at some of the lowest interest rates on earth, what's the problem?
I'm with you in this 100%. I planned on paying cash for mine but at 1.49% for 5 or 6 years the money was just too cheap to pass up and hopefully I'll do better than that with my own investments.
We currently have 3 autos, all of which are owned outright but if someone is going to let me use their money for next to free, I can keep my assets as is and get a better return.
We currently have 3 autos, all of which are owned outright but if someone is going to let me use their money for next to free, I can keep my assets as is and get a better return.
Cool. Borrowing money because you're making more on your money elsewhere isn't the same as borrowing money because you don't have it.
can't wait to hear how it ends
UPDATE: Ok all, I made my decision today and paid the $2.5K deposit so it's now official! After much back and forth the past few weeks I decided to go to Telsa today to drive the P90D and 90D back-to-back. Afterwards, it was pretty clear which model was the right fit for me so I ended up ordering the P90D!!
Thank you all for your input, comments, etc.
Sir Guacamolaf
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My 2c - if you got the money to burn, and the itch to enjoy, burn the money and get a P90D. What else do you earn for?
RogerHScott
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That's all well and good but you didn't tell us whether you went Ludicrous, i.e. P90D.
Camera-Cruiser
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Awesome! Now, can we talk to you about adding a line under your P90D?View attachment 182736
UPDATE: Ok all, I made my decision today and paid the $2.5K deposit so it's now official! After much back and forth the past few weeks I decided to go to Telsa today to drive the P90D and 90D back-to-back. Afterwards, it was pretty clear which model was the right fit for me so I ended up ordering the P90D!!
Thank you all for your input, comments, etc.
I kid, I kid, but can we?
That's all well and good but you didn't tell us whether you went Ludicrous, i.e. P90D.
I did not go with P90DL. Is there really much of a difference in performance? I believe the OA told me that I could add it at anytime via a paid software update. That was my understanding anyways.
AMPd
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The deference is definitely there, luckily as your OA said, you can get Ludicrous mode at a later date if you so choose
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