Disappointed with the Refreshed 2021 Model X

[newboy]

Hehe

Yes, there's an extra benefit: walking is reportedly very healthy for you.

Oh, u just have 1 car in your house hold? Please save and get a 2nd one.

 

[verygreen]

Hehe


Oh, u just have 1 car in your house hold? Please save and get a 2nd one.

I think you need to make up your mind. in previous post you said to "wait, don't get the car yet" and now "do get another car"?
If I get another car now - that means there are two choices originally outlined, and the third one you said exists - does not.

 

[Cosmacelf]

I think you need to make up your mind. in previous post you said to "wait, don't get the car yet" and now "do get another car"?
If I get another car now - that means there are two choices originally outlined, and the third one you said exists - does not.

He is acting like a troll. Maybe we should ignore him until he starts posting intelligent and/or useful comments?

 

[Doc Brown]

I don’t really understand the OP’s post. If you don’t like it, don’t get it. Don’t be excited, etc. You’re right. Range should be more. But the tech for Cybertruck and the Roadster doesn’t actually exist yet, so that’s why they’re so much higher. As for comfort, my 2016 P90DX always gets compliments from others about comfort. So I think it’s just a matter of what you like.

I personally hate the seats and interior in Porsche Taycan, every Mercedes, etc. But I don’t go on their boards to complain as I am never going to buy one.

If there is ever legit competition, Tesla may have to up its game to luxury. But remember, they are “Premium” not luxury cars and for now, they can get by with the bare minimum because there is, literally, no competitor for the S or X, If you care about range, and range rules right now, because anyone coming from ICE to EV first has to get over range anxiety. Porsche with 200 miles and Audi Etron with 220 is pathetic. My 2016 X had 248, now 228 with use, etc. Range, range, range. Even at 360, the new X crushes others. Cut off 20% if you think it’s not “real” range and 288 is still a lot better than anywhere else...bottom line, we need real competition in the EV space and it is unlikely to come from the incumbents.

I am not a fanboy. My wife wanted the etron, until she saw the range...

So - range is good - and Tesla has that market cornered (for now). That said - lots of people will never worry about that kind of range - or at least not have it be the deciding factor. My wife drove the X and Y, and a few other EVs - and got the e-Tron. It doesn't come close to Tesla's range - but she drives 3 miles each way to work with an occasional 30-mile round trip run to the hospital to deliver babies. For her - the superior interior (seat comfort, etc) was more important that range.

From a "luxury" perspective - Tesla finally does have competition. From a battery and range perspective - not so much. That, however, will change with time. If range isn't critical - the e-Tron is a great EV. I haven't look at the Jag or Porsche. I don't consider 220 mile range to be "pathetic" - but to each his own. I will also say that the Audi charges better than the Tesla - faster charge rate across the capacity spectrum.

I'm looking forward to the X refresh as I'm still in the market for an EV. I had a MY for an overnight last night and just don't like it. Too minimalist for me - it needs the small center display or HUD or something - and the road noise was really loud (in my opinion).

Anyway - I'm all for more EVs on the road, more competition leads to better products. That gets ICEs off the road.

YMMV.

 

[elguapo]

So - range is good - and Tesla has that market cornered (for now). That said - lots of people will never worry about that kind of range - or at least not have it be the deciding factor. My wife drove the X and Y, and a few other EVs - and got the e-Tron. It doesn't come close to Tesla's range - but she drives 3 miles each way to work with an occasional 30-mile round trip run to the hospital to deliver babies. For her - the superior interior (seat comfort, etc) was more important that range.

From a "luxury" perspective - Tesla finally does have competition. From a battery and range perspective - not so much. That, however, will change with time. If range isn't critical - the e-Tron is a great EV. I haven't look at the Jag or Porsche. I don't consider 220 mile range to be "pathetic" - but to each his own. I will also say that the Audi charges better than the Tesla - faster charge rate across the capacity spectrum.

I'm looking forward to the X refresh as I'm still in the market for an EV. I had a MY for an overnight last night and just don't like it. Too minimalist for me - it needs the small center display or HUD or something - and the road noise was really loud (in my opinion).

Anyway - I'm all for more EVs on the road, more competition leads to better products. That gets ICEs off the road.

YMMV.

The e-tron also has a realistic price for what you get. The Taycan's price is too high, IMO vis a vis the X. All solid points you made. Look, if range doesn't matter at all, a used Nissan Leaf is a bargain. There's zero luxury, but it does the trick.

On the minimalist side, the dash on the X and S is definitely nice, but Tesla's overall design is very minimalist. When they get competition they may, or may not, decide to change.

 

[Doc Brown]

The e-tron also has a realistic price for what you get. The Taycan's price is too high, IMO vis a vis the X. All solid points you made. Look, if range doesn't matter at all, a used Nissan Leaf is a bargain. There's zero luxury, but it does the trick.

On the minimalist side, the dash on the X and S is definitely nice, but Tesla's overall design is very minimalist. When they get competition they may, or may not, decide to change.

Agree. But, I think the X should be getting more "luxurious,’ particularly with the price increase. I fear it’s headed the other way (cost savings). We’ll see. Tesla gets all the credit for moving the EV market.