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Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by ecarfan, Nov 29, 2014.

  1. ecarfan

    ecarfan Well-Known Member

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    Sellers often dislike online discussions of their cars asking price, buyers often appreciate such discussions because they can get a better feel for the market and the reasonableness -- or not -- of the asking price.

    I used to participate in a vintage car forum -- which I will not name -- where some sellers complained so vociferously about online comments that they succeeded in changing the forum so that comments in for sale topics were prohibited. I thought that was an absurd overreaction. I am glad that no one here seems to be advocating for such a change. Let the discussion continue...
     
  2. PlanB

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    I think that's a great idea. Once a FOR SALE thread is started it should be automatically locked so no comments could be made, except by PM.

    Sounds perfect.
     
  3. Vitaman

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    Reactions to the new D's being delivered during December will likely affect the supply of used cars.
    If people go gaga over dual motors and all, more Model S's will hit the market and some sellers may be highly motivated.
    On a side note, most people who comment on inflated prices for used cars have shown admirable restraint. The more discussion there is, the more likely buyers can make educated decisions and sellers can bring expectations into clearer focus.
     
  4. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    Probably not going to happen. People know if they post here, they're posting in a forum. By definition, they're inviting ongoing commentary. There are other avenues for advertising if the seller does not want public feedback.
     
  5. ecarfan

    ecarfan Well-Known Member

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    Bonnie, thank you for that very sensible viewpoint.

    There are numerous options for sellers who don't want public feedback on their car or their asking price.
     
  6. mkjayakumar

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    In other words there are numerous options for a seller if they are only looking for a dork who is desperate and is not clued in on the current market conditions.

    Here you will see comments like, 'this is a great deal and will sell immediately' meaning you are under selling, as much as, 'what makes you think someone will bite at this price?'
     
  7. PlanB

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    THANK YOU!......like I have said many times people should keep their opinions to themselves. People selling their items DO NOT need advice on what to list their cars for that's a BS excuse from VITAMAN.

    And yes there should be more moderation of the for sale section.
     
  8. patrick40363

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    The car is over priced.

     
  9. Trnsl8r

    Trnsl8r Blue 85kwh since 12/8/12

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    I could be wrong, but it may be related to PlanB's attempt to sell a used Model S for six figures a while back: 2014 - No Longer Available (the thread has since been stripped of all relevant info and his/her responses, but you can still glean some details from the other comments)
     
  10. PlanB

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    Has nothing to do with the sale of my car. It has to do with people keeping their opinions in the for sale section to themselves. Which clearly you and others don't seem to get. Clearly missing the point.
     
  11. MsElectric

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    Ah that was very enlightening. Now I understand PlanB better and why he's so upset... :)
     
  12. Vitaman

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    "that's a BS excuse from VITAMAN"

    One man'e excuse is another's rational explanation.
    And that's not an excuse!
     
  13. Pinot.Noir

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    Except for your opinion of course. Funny how frequently you are posting in the For Sale forum when you aren't looking to sell or buy. Can't help yourself?
     
  14. Jackyche

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    I believe he's a seller and a buyer. Not sure if he sold his or not but its the one with autopilot hardware. He also posted on WTB too I believe.

     
  15. marcebahn

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    It is interesting to me that when the vehicles are sold we are in the dark on the actual sales price.
    I have been looking on autotrader as well, and noticed that the number of model s vehicles has gone from under 100 to 200 now. Supply and demand from basic economics will drive the marketplace.
    I too have talked with the tesla dealers and found model S 85kw less than $70K.
    I know that many are getting angry over the value. The data and economics will dictate price.
    We should all be transparent with the data.
    This is a revolutionary vehicle with fantastic technology.
     
  16. doug

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    Since 2006 it has been TMC's style to have open discussion in For Sale threads. I'd prefer that to continue, and frankly I think it works fine as long as folks observe the forum rules which include being polite.
     
  17. 100thMonkey

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    it never ceases to amaze me how people seem to intentionally kill sales threads! this is a buyer be whare world and while many of us want to be good samaritans, I do wonder if we aren't actually contributing to an artificially depressed resale market, something that could eventually depress sales of the car new and hurt the EV movement. I've purchased and sold high end specialty tech on forums like this and can attest to the fact that people jumping in and commenting who have no interest in actual purchase, tend to scuttle a thread and ruin the chance of sale. a thread with a bunch of negativity in it, will often turn off prospective buyers. if someone wants to buy a used Tesla S today, for whatever reason and is willing to pay a premium to someone who is selling used, I have no issue with that, it is the buyers prerogative to be the one haggling with the seller and doing their homework. maybe comments in these sale threads should be limited to actual interest in purchase or if their is reasonable suspicion of fraud. how about letting the market decide what a car is worth? from what I've seen here with so many folks who have no actual interest in purchasing jumping in with snarky comments, no one in their right mind would try and sell their car on TMC. that said, a bit more self restraint is always preferred to censoring.
     

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