Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

[exxxviii]

Thanks. There were also a couple of price changes last December when they cut the price by $3750 and then by $7500, plus adding 10K SC miles.

Right. I missed the two December decreases and the 1/1 increase. Need to add those back in.

 

[woolymammoth17]

They’re is always somebody to complain if they lower or raise prices. But no one complains on why the Eggs are over $5 a dozen.

$20,500 savings ($13k price drop + $7.5k rebate) still buys me a lot of eggs.

 

[MJP.P3D-]

Tesla is always tweaking their prices. Until a few days ago, I was shocked at how often. Here is a price change history for the Model Y LR:

Date	Price	Change
3/15/2019​	$51,000​
3/24/2019​	$52,000​	$1,000​
1/29/2020​	$52,990​	$990​
7/11/2020​	$49,990​	-$3,000​
2/21/2021​	$48,990​	-$1,000​
3/11/2021​	$49,900​	$910​
4/8/2021​	$50,490​	$590​
4/22/2021​	$50,990​	$500​
5/6/2021​	$51,490​	$500​
5/21/2021​	$51,990​	$500​
6/9/2021​	$52,490​	$500​
6/25/2021​	$52,990​	$500​
7/22/2021​	$53,990​	$1,000​
10/5/2021​	$54,990​	$1,000​
10/22/2021​	$56,990​	$2,000​
11/4/2021​	$57,990​	$1,000​
11/11/2021​	$58,990​	$1,000​
3/9/2022​	$59,990​	$1,000​
3/14/2022​	$62,990​	$3,000​
6/15/2022​	$65,990​	$3,000​
1/12/2023​	$52,990​	-$13,000​
1/24/2023​	$53,490​	$500​

Very interesting—thanks for sharing this. Any chance you have something similar for the MYP?

 

[exxxviii]

Very interesting—thanks for sharing this. Any chance you have something similar for the MYP?

No, I only tracked the baby MY pricing. I think MYP price history is out there, but it is trickier because they had separate cosmetic and performance options they later combined.

 

[Ray_R]

The IRS' own website does not clearly articulate when or how the MSRP will be determined. Just sayin I'm not taking any chances on getting burned by a technicality.

Credits for new clean vehicles purchased in 2023 or after | Internal Revenue Service

You may qualify for a clean vehicle tax credit up to $7,500 if you buy a new, qualified plug-in electric vehicle or fuel cell electric vehicle.

www.irs.gov

“MSRP is the retail price of the automobile suggested by the manufacturer, including options, accessories and trim but excluding destination fees.”
Seems pretty clear to me.

 

[SpicyPaneer]

Information from the IRS.Gov website

 

[DeeDeeCee]

Tesla categorically says that software is not included in the rebate calculation. Has anyone see the language in Federal communications that confirms Tesla's statements?

 

[Occhis]

Tesla categorically says that software is not included in the rebate calculation. Has anyone see the language in Federal communications that confirms Tesla's statements?

What @Ray_R posted above is a direct quote from IRS website.

 

[woolymammoth17]

Very interesting—thanks for sharing this. Any chance you have something similar for the MYP?

Tesla Car Price History

2024 2024 History 2024 Trim,Max Range (EPA),Top Speed,0-60 Acc.,Max Tow Capacity (US),Pre-2024 Intro. Price,2023 EOY Price,Intro of M-3 Highland,M-3 LR $1K Increase,M-Y RWD & LR $1K "Temp" Price Cut,M-3 LR $0.5K Price Increase,M-3 LR $0.25K Price Increase,End M-Y RWD & LR "Temp" Price Cut,M-Y E...

docs.google.com

 

[Geech72]

“MSRP is the retail price of the automobile suggested by the manufacturer, including options, accessories and trim but excluding destination fees.”
Seems pretty clear to me.

Does it? Where in that sentence does it say when and how the MSRP is established. Is it a snapshot in time when the calendar year ends, a weighted average of the MSRP throughout the year, the MSRP at purchase agreement, or the MSRP at delivery?

 

[Occhis]

It’s detailed in your sales agreement when you put your deposit down.

 

[DeeDeeCee]

What @Ray_R posted above is a direct quote from IRS website.

Yes, I read that as well and I may be thick as an ICE brick, but it says including options, technically AP and FSD are options. Technically, there is a MSRP for theses options. Yet FSD can also be added at the flick of a switch. Does color count? Do 20" wheels. I'm just asking where in that listing does it make that clear. I appreciate Tesla's clarification, but let's just say 3 Tesla's in, I've been burned before.

 

[WyoDude]

Yes, with just that small $500 increase they eliminated Red, 20" tires on a base white car and they also eliminated the option to add two $1000 upgrades.
So only a white car can get tow. Only a white car can get white seats. If you pick blue, silver or black that is all for options.

Yeah I think the $500 is two fold - demand lever for people on the fence and narrow the types of orders coming in to streamline production further to increase output

 

[MJP.P3D-]

Tesla Car Price History

2024 2024 History 2024 Trim,Max Range (EPA),Top Speed,0-60 Acc.,Max Tow Capacity (US),Pre-2024 Intro. Price,2023 EOY Price,Intro of M-3 Highland,M-3 LR $1K Increase,M-Y RWD & LR $1K "Temp" Price Cut,M-3 LR $0.5K Price Increase,M-3 LR $0.25K Price Increase,End M-Y RWD & LR "Temp" Price Cut,M-Y E...

docs.google.com

Thanks very much!

 

[Ryan McHargue]

USAA offers Total Purchase Protection coverage which bumps up the value of the vehicle by 20% should you happen to total it. $16 a month for me. I signed up right away once I found out that the car was devalued 20% overnight.

Can you get gap without a loan from USAA?

 

[MsHoseok08]

Hi! I took delivery of my Model Y on 12/4 & qualified for the “$3750 referral credit”… has any of you actually received this? And if you did, how was the credit sent? Thank you.

 

[jose3030]

$20,500 savings ($13k price drop + $7.5k rebate) still buys me a lot of eggs.

Milk & Eggs, like my dear father used to say.

 

[jose3030]

Information from the IRS.Gov website

Interesting that the vanilla white Model 3 Performance doesn't qualify?? It's under 55k I believe.

 

[bro1999]

Hi! I took delivery of my Model Y on 12/4 & qualified for the “$3750 referral credit”… has any of you actually received this? And if you did, how was the credit sent? Thank you.

Should have been taken off the price off the car up front.

 

[tekdemon]

My friend was so pissed about this he actually filmed a podcast talking about it
Almost got tempted by the $7500 credit in December myself but I had suspicions that they'd pull some stunt in Q1.