Thanks for posting this. I didn't try again after that update, so I'll give it a go.
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Discussion: Tesla Vision system for Model 3/Y
- Thread starter Mr X
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Thanks for posting this. I didn't try again after that update, so I'll give it a go.
Took a 3 hour trip on back roads at 55 MPH using autopilot on 2022.4.5.17 and also didn't have any phantom braking events when passing large trucks/vehicles. Not a perfect use case, but this same road for me 6 months ago was unbearable on auto pilot. So things are looking up.
I'm SO happy to report the same result with 2022.4.5.17! A local two-lane country road that used to be unbearable and phantom brake 4-5 times over just a couple miles is now perfect. Both cloudy and sunny.. empty and with heavy traffic. It took them 10 months (and a NHTSA investigation) to finally fix what they broke when they removed radar from our cars, but they've clearly made a huge step back in the right direction.
I still haven't had a chance to try out the scenario of cruising along at ~50mph, pacing behind another car ahead when they turn on their left blinker and proceed to stop. The radar-equipped cars handled this fine and slowed smoothly and safely. My car would fly ahead then panic and slam on the brakes. Hopefully that has been fixed as well.
BigNick
Infamous Fat Sweaty Guy
After initially receiving 2022.4.5.17, I noticed a phantom braking reduction as well and thought I was just lucky that day, rather than it being a software fix. (One would think going from 2022.4.5.3 to 2022.4.5.17 wouldn't have a major change to TACC code.)
The fact that I'm seeing others report improvements seems to indicate I didn't just catch a lucky weather condition, sun angle, traffic pattern, etc.
I'm still under 1000 miles total with my vision-only "panic-brakey" M3P compared to about 23K I put on my used AP1 P85D (with its nearly-flawless TACC) from 2019 through 2021.
After almost 2 weeks of testing, I've had only two emergency forward collision alerts (compared to 1-2 alerts per drive before). In both cases, it was a cloudy day and there was no traffic around at all, so I have no idea why it alerted. Neither event applied ANY braking at all, which is a welcome change. I'm very happy with the improvement.
If following behind another car, pacing at their speed, it still kind of waits too long and panics if they come to a stop, but it's much better than before. It's not as smooth as the radar-equipped cars, but much better.
If following behind another car, pacing at their speed, it still kind of waits too long and panics if they come to a stop, but it's much better than before. It's not as smooth as the radar-equipped cars, but much better.
I've been using this website to look at the latest Tesla release notes and I just installed 2022.8.3. It doesn't say anything about autopilot updates, but something is different with my car on one of the last few updates. Autopilot used to be intolerable on my vision system only car with phantom braking, but on Saturday I had a 45 minute stretch of uninterrupted autopilot (not FSD). Not a single fault. Did something change recently?
Looks like we may be seeing an increase with Tesla Vision speed limit. It looks 85 mph may be the new max... Somewhat sad they didn't got with 88 mph
electrek.co
Tesla increases top speed of Autopilot with 'Tesla Vision' to 85 mph
Tesla has started to push a new software update to increase the top speed limit of Autopilot for vehicles with...
electrek.co
A welcome, albeit long delayed, move in the right direction.
But still worse than cameras+radar in every performance respect:
But still worse than cameras+radar in every performance respect:
- Slower top speed
- Longer minimum following distance
- Forced auto wipers
- Forced auto high beams
- Phantom braking? (I know it’s better now than it was a few months ago, but is it still worse than radar?)
Yup. In 2021 our M3LR frequently phantom braked on the local rural roads. Hasn't done it once in 2022 with the upgrades. Nice.
Now if they could just correct how AutoSteer "swings wide" on the corners. You can see the atavar car almost touching the blue line on the screen as the real car almost touches the center line on a tight right hand curve. Sort of scary when an oncoming vehicle is "cutting corners". No problem on major roads tho.
oreobbq
Member
Sounds like your vision car needs glasses haha. An increase in max AP speed is a welcome update.
So happy to hear this! Tired of having to pull over and stop to get out of AP jail.Looks like we may be seeing an increase with Tesla Vision speed limit. It looks 85 mph may be the new max... Somewhat sad they didn't got with 88 mph
Tesla increases top speed of Autopilot with 'Tesla Vision' to 85 mph
Tesla has started to push a new software update to increase the top speed limit of Autopilot for vehicles with...
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
Have you tried re-calibrating the cameras (see "Drive to Calibrate Cameras")?
Model 3 Owner's Manual | Tesla
Note calibration works best in these conditions: "For example, calibration completes quicker when driving on a straight road with multiple lanes (such as a controlled-access highway), with highly-visible lane markings (in the driving lane as well as the adjacent lanes)".
Hmm, thanks, will try.
Although since the virtual display shows the problem, the car is aware of its position w/r to the lane. So not sure if it will help.
FWIW my 2018 LR M3 (AP 2.5 with radar) also "swings wide" on turns. Note that I am typically 5 mph over the speed limit so maybe if I were traveling slower it would take the turns better. If I see that a car is going to meet me at the turn's apex I will disengage AP and manually turn tighter. If there is no traffic I let the car do its thing.
Yes, we do the same. And it's not really an issue when going the speed limit on our rural roads. But that's awfully hard to do ...
It's automatic at activation but you can push down on the left stick to put it back in manual mode. Needs to be done every time you activate TACC or Autopilot, which is annoying but it's not 'forced' per say.
That's the way it works on my car as well, but it seems some cars are different based on reports here. It might no be possible to disable auto high beam if FSD (beta?) is active. I don't know because I don't have FSD.
But yeah, I disable it by the left stalk every time I activate AP.
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