Discussion: Updated Range and 0-60 times for Model 3 and Y

[AlanSubie4Life]

Anybody have a good comparison of P vs. LR without rollout?

Rollout is "always" about 0.3 seconds. It's just kind of the way it works out. It is of course a function of acceleration, but it ends up around 0.3 seconds for the accelerations in question, just as a rule of thumb. (t = sqrt(2*1ft/a)). Presumably for Plaid it's closer to 0.25 seconds, lol.

But given all the other variability 0.1seconds variation in the rollout time is just not that big a deal, so I just think of it as 0.3 seconds, maybe slightly less.

 

[Cyberm3]

Ouch, the Canadian version is now 6.1s 0-100km/h.

I'm assuming this is the same as 5.8s 0-60mph as 100km/h is 62.16mph?

 

[Knightshade]

Here's the chart thingy I mentioned

The current "website" times from Tesla appear to reflect the "first 5% bump" for the LR AWD no rollout and for the P with it....both are slower than present day, but the LR AWD is "less slow" than the website indicates because of their dishonest measurement methods.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

The 315 miles for the M3 Performance is absurd, I've already put like 2400 miles on mine ...

 

[travis3000]

Probably something to do with the 82kwh batteries. Notice the P range didn’t change - they be been built for at least 6 months now with the bigger battery.

Tesla has been putting the 82KWH batteries in their LR models since April. Mine was assembled in late May and I have the 82Kwh battery but my car also came with the old range.

 

[miatadan]

I noticed that performance has changed from 5.3sec to 5.8sec for the 0-60mph acceleration times / 6.1sec 0-100 km/h time...

Is this due to only change in battery technology ? Also range has changed.

Will this actually be noticeable in real life driving?

Dan

 

[El joe]

Pretty sure there’s a large thread on this, but I’ve read that it’s supposedly due to a change in the drive train.

 

[Adam3]

Anybody have a good comparison of P vs. LR without rollout?

Drive both. Coworker went LR and regrets it.

 

[Darthbenji]

This part also points to LFP in SR+:

"Very Cold Weather
For the best long range driving experience in the coldest driving conditions, we recommend a Long Range or Performance Model 3".

Love you know how much range is lost parking at work did 8 hours in the dead of winter.

 

[jjrandorin]

Pretty sure there’s a large thread on this, but I’ve read that it’s supposedly due to a change in the drive train.

(moderator note)

thread you commented on merged into existing thread. Only mentioning it because now that your post exists in that thread, it ends up looking out of place. This was originally posted in a thread where someone made a new post on this existing topic.

 

[Boourns]

Drive both. Coworker went LR and regrets it.

Agree. LR is plenty fast -- more than you will ever need. P is straight up silly. I went with silly.

@Adam3 with used prices as they are and still relatively short wait times for the Performance, your co-worker might be able to get out of his LR and into a P without taking a bath.

 

[fj_fan91]

Agree. LR is plenty fast -- more than you will ever need. P is straight up silly. I went with silly.

@Adam3 with used prices as they are and still relatively short wait times for the Performance, your co-worker might be able to get out of his LR and into a P without taking a bath.

I initially had a P on order, but switched to a LR when the discussion of tax credits was revived. Current EDD is Nov 19- Dec 15, but I expect that to probably push out a bit. If it doesn't I will put it on hold until there is a final decision made on the tax credits.

For me, the difference of 7-8k pushed me towards the P, but now that we are talking an 8k tax credit and a 15k purchase price difference (assuming the 55k cap holds) that's a real tough pill to swallow for an extra 0.3/0.4 0-60.

I'm coming from a Chevy SS which is fast (around 4.5 0-60) but still doesn't compete with the LR, especially with the AB upgrade. To me that's going to be my happy medium, assuming the tax credit passes it'll be 13k cheaper than the P but still faster than almost anything on the road.

 

[Jeremy3292]

I initially had a P on order, but switched to a LR when the discussion of tax credits was revived. Current EDD is Nov 19- Dec 15, but I expect that to probably push out a bit. If it doesn't I will put it on hold until there is a final decision made on the tax credits.

For me, the difference of 7-8k pushed me towards the P, but now that we are talking an 8k tax credit and a 15k purchase price difference (assuming the 55k cap holds) that's a real tough pill to swallow for an extra 0.3/0.4 0-60.

I'm coming from a Chevy SS which is fast (around 4.5 0-60) but still doesn't compete with the LR, especially with the AB upgrade. To me that's going to be my happy medium, assuming the tax credit passes it'll be 13k cheaper than the P but still faster than almost anything on the road.

Good choice - the LR smokes almost everything you see on the road, especially with AB. You also won't have those 20" pothole ruined rims the P has

 

[fluxcapacitor]

I wonder if they'll offer acceleration boost on the standard range now hmm

 

[Marionettez3]

Drive both. Coworker went LR and regrets it.

I just sold my 19 LR and getting my P next week. If there is any doubt get the p

 

[Darthbenji]

So what will pre-existing orders get? A slower car with slower charging and worse cold weather performance? Or what they ordered?

 

[Terpslax]

Any idea why there is no mention of MYP w 21” wheels? Those do come standard w the car…

 

[MY-Y]

So what will pre-existing orders get? A slower car with slower charging and worse cold weather performance? Or what they ordered?

A slower car with more range, 100% charging without damage, lower degradation, sign me up.

 

[jjrandorin]

A slower car with more range, 100% charging without damage, lower degradation, sign me up.

Not me (even though I have a car already). "100% charging without damage" means nothing unless you actually drive your 100% range out every day, and almost no one does that. "Slower car" you have every time you step on the pedal. "More range / 100% charging" doesnt matter unless you are a traveling salesperson, or get hung up on looking at the range number.

 

[diamond.g]

(moderator note)

thread you commented on merged into existing thread. Only mentioning it because now that your post exists in that thread, it ends up looking out of place. This was originally posted in a thread where someone made a new post on this existing topic.

For us slow pokes can someone link the thread here?