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Ditch the extra key fob

Discussion in 'Model X' started by cclaygo, Apr 20, 2016.

  1. cclaygo

    cclaygo Member

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    Some have experienced issues with the doors not unlocking or not opening or closing too soon, etc... While there may be some other issues for some, I have found that if I keep the secondary key fob, waaaaay away from the car, all issues disappear. If you are having any unlocking or door opening closing issues, try placing the secondary key fob well out of range of the car and see if that helps.

    Whenever my wife puts the fob in her purse and rides with me, I always experience these random issues. Now she keeps the fob at home, and she is not too happy about that. But I am!
     
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  2. CTemp222

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    What kind of door issues?
     
  3. aesculus

    aesculus Still Trying to Figure this All Out

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    The auto present stuff goes totally wacko with two fobs. I have also heard of people complaining about door unlock issues and the cars turning on power etc. Note the last update seems to require the fob much closer to the car for it to respond to auto features. It used to wake up when I was about 10 feet away. Now I have to get right up to the car.
     
  4. cclaygo

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    The issues I experience are that the auto present gets confused...it opens for me, but since my wife is on the other side of the car it then wants to close. I get into a battle with the door and manually open it, but as I'm getting in, it fights back and closes on me!

    Sometimes it will just open slightly, close, then open again...when I walk away it will close then open again. As soon as the other key fob is no where near the car, I have zero issues.
     
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  6. Farnigus

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    In some ways, tesla knows about this already.
    During the delivery, the delivery specialist explicitly turns off the auto-presenting doors.
    I turned it back on to check out the feature, and throughout the car inspection, the auto-presenting doors kept going opening randomly.
    So if both fobs are in range of the car... it just gets confused.
    I agree with cclaygo; I even pulled the battery for the spare key because its really only used as an emergency backup if I lose the other one.



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  7. CTemp222

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    There should be a on/ off switch or button for the fob. This would totally fix the problem.
     
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    If the keys can be set to distinct profiles then one can be set to use auto present doors the other can be turned off.
     
  9. CTemp222

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    But if both people want them on that's a problem.
     
  10. systemcrashed

    systemcrashed Please Reboot

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    Yes, then get the RF isolation box... I'm guessing software guys are working on this one. hopefully.
     
  11. Dazureus

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    If they implement saved driver settings associated to key fobs in the future, this wouldn't be a problem. The vehicle currently detects when the key fob is approaching from the front or back, within close proximity to the drivers side door. If it can distinguish between the key fobs, it will know if the user of the key fob has the auto open door setting selected on or off as they approach the driver door. I'm not sure if each key fob has a unique transmit signature (key fob hardware feature), or if the vehicle can parse the signature (vehicle software feature). Unique key fob signatures aren't new to the car world, so this is probably software implementable.
     
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  12. CTemp222

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    I'm saying if both people have the auto open on it would still be a problem.
     
  13. aesculus

    aesculus Still Trying to Figure this All Out

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    Two different issues:
    • Tesla should recognize different fobs as different drivers period.
    • Both should allow auto open but they need a way to disable one fob when the other is dominant. I agree that a switch is the easiest way. Other scenarios are fraught with issues that could be easily confused.
     
  14. longwait

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    Mine no longer wakes up at all until I press the door handle. It used to wake up as I approached, but that stopped after one of the recent updates.
     
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    Same here!
     
  16. aesculus

    aesculus Still Trying to Figure this All Out

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    I must have an active car. The other weird trait my car has is my spoiler refuses to stay locked down during rest periods for more than a few minutes and it's right back up again. It's like a 2 year old child who refuses to take a nap.:confused:
     
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  17. 7racer

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    I get this too...can't quite figure it out.
     
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    This seems quite surreptitious and not cool. Did you call Tesla or speak to the DS's manager about that?
     
  19. CHG-ON

    CHG-ON Still in love after all these miles

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    I can totally see how the car could not figure out which fob is primary. I would have thought that they would tested that thoroughly. I think the auto opening doors are totally cool. But I think I would find it extremely annoying, as I am in my garage all the time with my fob in my pocket (where else would it be?), and while in the house, I am in range of my MS, at certain spots, which makes it wake up every time I walk to the front door. Having doors open and close all the time would drive me crazy.

    But it is totally cool.
     
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    Ive noticed that our model S gets confused with auto present and unlocking if both my wife and I are approaching the car and we each have a fob on us.

    Oh, and I've created a driver profile that I call "garage" which I select after parking it. On my garage profile I disabled auto present and auto lock, so I can walk about my garage at will without having my car present and lock and present yet again...
     
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