Do You Believe The M3P Will Ever Get AB?

[DRTII]

Like it says, do you think the M3P should get a boost upgrade?

Personally, I say yes, because always more power.

 

[jjrandorin]

This is a recent thread on this topic. Where is the option for "the car cant do it" in the poll? Is that choice 2?

Torque and Horsepower upgrade kits on M3P?

Hi guys, I know there is a performance boost kit/controller type of thing for SR and LR but is there any for the M3P to unleash more horsepower and torque? I believe the hardware has the capability to output a lot more for the track performance but the software is limiting it. If anyone knows...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[StellarRat]

Maybe it isn't possible to push the system any further without a chance of breaking something. Have you considered that?

 

[Mrcarcrazy]

Poll says “will” and post says “should”. Two different questions.

 

[sduck]

I'm still trying to figure out what AB is.

 

[jjrandorin]

I'm still trying to figure out what AB is.

The normal usage for that acronym here is "acceleration boost". The poll also seems to assume that increasing .5 seconds from 3.1 to 2.6 is just as easy as it was to increase from 4.0 to 3.5 for the Model 3 Long range AWD model, ignoring the fact that as you get faster, it gets harder and harder to go faster.

 

[Rmchrger]

I'm still trying to figure out what AB is.

Acceleration

 

[MaxwellN22]

Acceleration boost? I dunno..... But a few more HP in a software update? I think so.

They did that a while ago on the Model 3 didn't they? I bet there's 20more ponies in there somewhere.

I think the real question is how much would you pay, and how much power would it need to be for the money you're willing to spend.

I think I would be cool with around $2000USD. And it would have to bump the 0-60 to 2.9 or less. But more importantly it needs to be able to walk a LR dual motor at speed, not just jump quicker off the line. So quicker 0-60. But ALSO faster 60-130.

 

[1QYKMY]

I would like to see AB for MYP before M3P.

 

[toddkageals]

I'd pay 2K for it.....but yeah.....probably not possible.

 

[Snowball316]

I feel that all car should get a boost soon as most of the newer ICE cars are getting closer to the HP/TQ output Tesla.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

The normal usage for that acronym here is "acceleration boost". The poll also seems to assume that increasing .5 seconds from 3.1 to 2.6 is just as easy as it was to increase from 4.0 to 3.5 for the Model 3 Long range AWD model, ignoring the fact that as you get faster, it gets harder and harder to go faster.

I thought that IF this occurred, and they COULD do it, then it would be about a 0.2 second improvement (given the weight, current output, a whole host of assumptions ...)

Not only is it objectively (in terms of performance) quicker, but it also crosses that magic 3 second threshold ... I mean, this looks pretty good, right

 

[holeydonut]

Maybe they'll make the Roadster's compressed air rocket thing an accessory that fits in the Model 3's trunk.

In Fast and the Furious 15, Dom is going to have a NOS button that actually fires a cold booster. to the

PS, if they ever used EVs in the FF movies, it's going to be awfully quiet and kind of dull.

 

[thinktwice]

I feel that all car should get a boost soon as most of the newer ICE cars are getting closer to the HP/TQ output Tesla.

Which newer ICE cars are you referring to?

 

[holeydonut]

Which newer ICE cars are you referring to?

I guess the Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye is getting near M3P levels of measured straightline performance and cost. But it'll probably drop its transmission all over the ground if someone ever actually stomped on the gas pedal.

 

[jjrandorin]

I guess the Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye is getting near M3P levels... but it'll probably drop its transmission all over the ground if someone ever actually stomped on the gas pedal.

New 'Vettes are supposed to be as fast (maybe faster?)

With that being said, maybe its just me, but the statement "other cars are getting faster so all teslas should get a boost to speed up as well" really feels like a huge sense of entitlement to me. Kinda like saying "they are building a new home development around the corner from me with bigger homes, so my builder should come and make my home bigger too".

/shrug

 

[Knightshade]

I feel that all car should get a boost soon as most of the newer ICE cars are getting closer to the HP/TQ output Tesla.

So... never then.

Most legacy companies have abandoned development of new ICE powertrains at this point. There's never going to be a point that "most' ICE cars are close to 3-AB or 3P performance.


Below is something I wrote a bit over a year ago-- I know Tesla has raised prices a couple k since- and I haven't kept that close on eye on current ICE, but I suspect it's still reasonably accurate


So the quickest new cars for sale under 60k:

1. C8 base corvette- $59,995, 0-60 in ~3 flat.
2. Tesla Model 3 Performance- $56,990, 0-60 in ~3 flat (but 1/4 mile is .2 slower than vette)
3.... Tesla Model 3 LR AWD with accel boost- $53,900, 0-60 in ~3.5.


Even if you raise the price cap to 99k and (other than different vette variants) there's only 2 other cars worth looking at for this list-

The Chalenger Hellcat Redeye- which is $71,300 and lists a 3.4 0-60, but every car mag that tested couldn't beat 3.7 in actual testing. Allegedly with Mickey Thompsons and a prepped track it'll do better, but not in real life.

The Camaro ZL1- which is 3.5 or 3.6 depending which car mag tests it, and is priced around 62k base model.


Oh, funnier- I'm pretty sure 4 and 5 on the quickest cars under 60k would be:

4. Audi RS3- $56,200, 0-60 in ~3.7
5......Tesla Model 3 LR AWD without accel boost- $51,900, 0-60 in 3.9

 

[holeydonut]

The Camaro ZL1- which is 3.5 or 3.6 depending which car mag tests it, and is priced around 62k base model.

I'm gonna be "that guy" and correct you... the ZL1 with the 1LE package is the one that does 3.5/3.6... and that's around $72k. So I don't think anything within reason is approaching the Model 3P in terms of price and performance.

Edit, although GM and FCA do offer more exciting colors than the 5 boring colors at Tesla...

 

[Snowball316]

So... never then.

Most legacy companies have abandoned development of new ICE powertrains at this point. There's never going to be a point that "most' ICE cars are close to 3-AB or 3P performance.


Below is something I wrote a bit over a year ago-- I know Tesla has raised prices a couple k since- and I haven't kept that close on eye on current ICE, but I suspect it's still reasonably accurate


So the quickest new cars for sale under 60k:

1. C8 base corvette- $59,995, 0-60 in ~3 flat.
2. Tesla Model 3 Performance- $56,990, 0-60 in ~3 flat (but 1/4 mile is .2 slower than vette)
3.... Tesla Model 3 LR AWD with accel boost- $53,900, 0-60 in ~3.5.


Even if you raise the price cap to 99k and (other than different vette variants) there's only 2 other cars worth looking at for this list-

The Chalenger Hellcat Redeye- which is $71,300 and lists a 3.4 0-60, but every car mag that tested couldn't beat 3.7 in actual testing. Allegedly with Mickey Thompsons and a prepped track it'll do better, but not in real life.

The Camaro ZL1- which is 3.5 or 3.6 depending which car mag tests it, and is priced around 62k base model.


Oh, funnier- I'm pretty sure 4 and 5 on the quickest cars under 60k would be:

4. Audi RS3- $56,200, 0-60 in ~3.7
5......Tesla Model 3 LR AWD without accel boost- $51,900, 0-60 in 3.9

lets go ahead and add the new nissan Z on here as well with 400HP as LRAWD ~ 350 HP and Performance 450ish HP..

2023 Nissan Z arrives with 400 hp, retro styling, optional blue or red interiors

The 2023 Nissan Z will boast 400 hp, a manual transmission, and an amalgam of design cues inspired by past Z cars.

www.motorauthority.com

 

[Knightshade]

lets go ahead and add the new nissan Z on here as well with 400HP as LRAWD ~ 350 HP and Performance 450ish HP..

2023 Nissan Z arrives with 400 hp, retro styling, optional blue or red interiors

The 2023 Nissan Z will boast 400 hp, a manual transmission, and an amalgam of design cues inspired by past Z cars.

www.motorauthority.com

..why?

Nissan said the Z's 0-60 mph time has improved by 15%, which should put it in the low 4-second range.

That's slower than anything else we've discussed. (by potentially quite a bit depending where in the "low" it falls)- and it's apparently recycling an engine from 2016.