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Do you want the candidates to discuss electric vehicles?

Discussion in 'Energy, Environment, and Policy' started by jordanthompson, Sep 28, 2016.

  1. jordanthompson

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    Trump thinks Global Warming is a hoax... so the choice is clear why ask the question?
     
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    Having people who sit in a private jet or the back of a limo make decisions on passenger cars is akin to asking Kim Kardashian to develop a plan for teen chastity.
     
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  5. ecarfan

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    No wait, Monday night he denied he ever denied global warming even though in 2012 he tweeted that global warming was a hoax created by China and he is on record in numerous campaign speeches denying global warming. Or maybe he was just denying he denied it. He is so perpetually confused that it is impossible to predict when he will change his mind after he has already changed his mind about an issue.

    Yes, the choice is clear.
     
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    No. There is no upside.
     
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    Which candidate were you hoping to hear from? Vader or Voldemort? (Or Gollum, who just wants his Precious... weed.)
     
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    If you want Trump's support, tell him that Tesla is the fastest car in the world and it's made in America by non-union workers.

    If you want Hillary's support, tell her it has the best mileage and lowest carbon footprint and is made by a diverse and tolerant workforce.

    If you want Gary Johnson's support, tell him you can smoke it.
     
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    I miss Bernie :(
     
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    I disagree. This is one place where I think trump can actually help. He has the ear of a great many 'Muricans, many of whom are avid supporters of 'Murica. Many of those same 'Muricans are staunchly against tesla and EVs in general, because that's what they've been told by 'Murican leaders to date.

    Trump, fake ass everything as he may be, including faking comraderie and sincerity with the 'Murican crowd, is probably one of the few people that could succesfully spin up the stars-n-bars aspect in that community. He can lay thick the American aspect of Tesla (American company, American workers, heavy veteran program, soon to be the most American car, etc), the anticipated introduction of the Bolt (along with some BS about old and new American companies leading the industry into the future) as well as the American electricity aspect of ev operation (reduces foreign oil dependency, creates American jobs, some twisted random anecdote about oil backdoor funding terrorist organizations, etc). In doing so might actually start to germinate a few seeds within that crowd that would otherwise never see the light of day.

    It's a win win for the EV community because that's not a criteria for anyone voting in November anyway (so it's not like THATS going to be the straw that breaks any red voter's back, who is otherwise anti-EV) but it still gets a prominent figure saying encouraging things about EVs. Hillary could say positive EV things from a different angle by appealing to the green side of blue voters, and both candidates will have praised EVs to their constituents without actually agreeing on anything.
     
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    bernie is happy in his new home and r8, he was paid well to leave.
     
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    You cut a check.

    If you want her to support your family and friends also, make it a big check.

    If you want her to support your whole foreign nation, bump it up once more.

    She's more Leona Helmsley than Margaret Thatcher.
     
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    If you are going to accuse someone then you need to support your accusation with facts, because the facts are that Sanders does not own an AUDI R8 and no one "paid him to leave", whatever you think that means.

    You can educate yourself by reading these analyses:
    FALSE: Bernie Sanders Bought a $172,000 Car with Campaign Donations
    Bernie Sanders Buys $600,000 Summer Home, Prompting Controversy

    Here is a source that refutes your accusation. Bernie Sanders Buys His Third House

    Quote: "Vermont magazine Seven Days reported Tuesday that the 74-year-old senator and his wife, Jane Sanders, have purchased a four-bedroom house on the shore of Lake Champlain for roughly $600,000. Jane told Seven Days that they had recently sold a house in Maine that had belonged to her family since the 1900s, and used the proceeds to purchase the new property,... Sanders is one of the poorer members of Congress, and his net worth is among the lowest in the Senate. His 2014 tax returnsrevealed that he and Jane made $205,617 that year, the bulk of which came from Sanders’s $174,000 Senate salary. (Jane, who previously made about $160,000 a year as the president of Burlington College, retired in 2011)."
     
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    ok.
     
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    If you count golf carts and other service vehicles, Trump owns quite a few EVs. Probably thousands. How many do the Clintons own?
     
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    That's a ridiculous association.
     
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    Bill bought a Prius. He heard they suck. Sadly, he got the context wrong, so it sits with no lovin'. :(
     
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    why? golf carts come in gas powered or electric powered versions, if it is true that the carts at Trump's courses are electric powered it isn't such a ridiculous association. what does hillary own and operate that would utilize a fleet of vehicles other than a "foundation"?
     
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    @kort677 you may wish to consider the fact that electric golf carts are not going to change the course of human existence. On the other hand, electric vehicles (such as passenger cars and trucks) powered by sustainable energy would dramatically lower the amount of CO2 humans are pumping into the atmosphere and that can make a difference to human existence on a global scale.

    What the Clinton Foundation does or does not do has no relevance to the topic of this thread, just as electric golf carts have no relevance.
     
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