Does CCS Magic-dock allow CCS Equipped Salvage Tesla's to Charge with Superchargers again?

[WhiteOnWhiteMY]

I assume this likely will still be an issue, but I would love to know if someone has a salvage title and blacklisted Tesla that is CCS Enabled can now use the supercharger network again using the Magic Dock? I assume not since it's likely a VIN blacklist, but it is curious to ponder.

 

[DeepBlueMN]

If the Tesla can charge on the public CCS network, then it “should” work on a Magic Dock Supercharger.

 

[WhiteOnWhiteMY]

If the Tesla can charge on the public CCS network, then it “should” work on a Magic Dock Supercharger.

I just don't know if CCS sends VIN over the protocol, and I do know that Tesla Blocks VINs of salvaged Teslas in the Supercharger network. This wouldn't apply to other networks.

 

[MLXXXp]

I can see one possible problem being that when you choose to charge a non-Tesla vehicle from the app, the Supercharger will lock the Magic Dock's CCS adapter onto the cable, so you won't have a NACS plug that will fit in the vehicle charge port. However, adding your own Tesla CCS1 to NACS adapter to convert back again might solve the problem.

 

[brainhouston]

functionality aside, that will look super funny

 

[ATPMSD]

I do not think it will work. Since Tesla “Bills” you based on the car’s VIN they will know it is a salvage.

 

[gaswalla]

Such a double standard. A salvaged Vinfast could charge (My example of a third world ev) and the salvaged Tesla is banned

 

[GasNah]

I just don't know if CCS sends VIN over the protocol, and I do know that Tesla Blocks VINs of salvaged Teslas in the Supercharger network. This wouldn't apply to other networks.

but if CCS is enabled in the salvaged car and and you can charge CCS elsewhere (EVGo, EA) it should allow to charge using CCS magic dock. Guess if someone tries it please report back

 

[WhiteOnWhiteMY]

but if CCS is enabled in the salvaged car and and you can charge CCS elsewhere (EVGo, EA) it should allow to charge using CCS magic dock. Guess if someone tries it please report back

Not saying CCS is disabled; salvaged Teslas are VIN Blacklisted from the supercharger network; just not 100% sure if this will bypass that VIN block that is on the NACS port.

 

[GasNah]

Not saying CCS is disabled; salvaged Teslas are VIN Blacklisted from the supercharger network; just not 100% sure if this will bypass that VIN block that is on the NACS port.

yeah I see what you mean, guess we shall find out soon

 

[TomServo]

Well if anyone will try it I bet it’s Rich from Rich Rebuild. He’s had a long standing feud with Tesla over this issue.

 

[GasNah]

seems like someone has done it already

 

[RichardV]

seems like someone has done it already

I am assuming this work around is hitting the 350A current limit, as identified by Kyle Conner of Out of Spec, limiting CCS charging of a 400 odd volt car to around 150kW.
Kyle identified that, at least for now, Tesla are following the 350A plated max current rating on the CCS adapter connected to the supercharger. They do not have this limit in Europe, and Australia is yet to open any V3(only V2) but being native CCS should follow Europe, and also this limit does not seem to be being applied to the Tesla NACS to CCS used by Tesla US owners connecting to third party chargers even though it has the same 350A plated max current rating.

 

[WhiteOnWhiteMY]

seems like someone has done it already

Not saying that this isn’t true, but OP in that thread never confirmed if his vehicle was salvaged. This might just be a meme post that people are taking out of context. Need someone with 1st hand knowledge to confirm if it works.

 

[TheHippo]

I just don't know if CCS sends VIN over the protocol, and I do know that Tesla Blocks VINs of salvaged Teslas in the Supercharger network. This wouldn't apply to other networks.

No, but CCS sends the vehicle's MAC address over the protocol.

That's how CCS charging network operates Autocharge.

 

[fiehlsport]

A Tesla is going to show up as a Tesla no matter how it’s connected to the supercharger. The pins are straight through the CCS adapter and Magic Dock to the Tesla connector, there’s nothing being changed or translated along the way.

 

[stopcrazypp]

A Tesla is going to show up as a Tesla no matter how it’s connected to the supercharger. The pins are straight through the CCS adapter and Magic Dock to the Tesla connector, there’s nothing being changed or translated along the way.

While that is true, it's possible Tesla assumes the car is CCS when you use the "non-Tesla" option with the dock and never bothers to check for and offer the traditional Tesla handshake. This will reduce the connection handshake time when a CCS car plugs in, so I can totally see them doing that.

 

[cwerdna]

With there currently being so few sites w/"magic dock", it's an interesting question but not all that useful unless you live near/frequently go near the sites with it (e.g. only two in CA and a bunch in the NE of the US).

That should grow but by how much vs. other non-Tesla CCS networks is unknown (at least to me).

 

[fiehlsport]

While that is true, it's possible Tesla assumes the car is CCS when you use the "non-Tesla" option with the dock and never bothers to check for and offer the traditional Tesla handshake. This will reduce the connection handshake time when a CCS car plugs in, so I can totally see them doing that.

Definitely a possible scenario.

 

[lowtoast]

Anyone test this yet? Would be great to know 100%