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Does the new Model S really get 400+ miles?

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Mr X, Nov 23, 2020.

  1. Mr X

    Mr X Future Martian

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    Curious...


    1. Does it actually show the 400 number on the range display?

    2. Can you actually go 400 miles on a charge with *real world driving or nah
     
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  2. Kuhz

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    1)Yes, for a few months
    2) lol
     
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  3. _jmk

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    It looks like Tesla broke the EPA test, impossible to compare the cars & ranges now.
     
  4. Alysashley79

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    1)yes IF you max charge the car which you should only do for road trips or you actually need those extra miles.
    2)that really all depends on how you drive. *most* people that have Tesla’s enjoy the heck out of them so no you won’t get close to the 400 miles. There is what I call my in town Tesla where I drive spiritedly and will get about 2/3 of my range. And then there is my road trip Tesla where I drive like a little old man with AP engaged the entire trip and then yes I’ll get about 90% of my range.
     
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  5. Cleo-n-Company

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    So what you're really saying is... there isn't a single scenario where any of us can expect the 400 mile range.

    This is what we refer to as marketing.
     
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  6. chronoreverse

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    It's actually possible to get higher than EPA if you drive at a steady pace at 45MPH on dry level ground on a calm, warm but not hot day. You'd go crazy though.
     
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  7. Cleo-n-Company

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    Yes I would. And I can't think of a single strip of road in Northern California where I could do just that.

    But in your beautiful province - I'll bet there are some nice options.
     
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    Iirc epa is based on 55mph. But still.

    here’s the point I was trying to make in my original post. The way a person drives a car. Be it an ICE or EV determine how good the mileage is.

    I have. Honda Pilot. It was advertised 21 in town and 24 on freeway. I’ve never gotten better than 19mpg. Not one time. But then I have a lead foot.

    engaging AP or even TACC on a highway takes our personal foot out of the equation. My particular MS had a max charge of 243. (That’s today after 6 years and 71k on the odo) my recent road trip I went 227 miles and arrived with 3 percent left. I *could* have potentially gotten another 9 miles. But that was flat road between Idaho and Arizona and it was around 75-80 degrees out. So was ideal.

    same scenario around town and a complete opposie on my part. Drove 206 miles and arrived home with 0% (don’t ever do this)

    could you get more than 400. Sure. But again. Max charging is for road trips. Is there anyone out there that actually drives 400 miles in a given day? Plug it in and enjoy the heck out of it!!
     
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  9. Uncle Paul

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    If you drive your car the way the EPA measures it, you will indeed get the +400 miles when new.

    Other than that, the EPA is just a comparison number to let you know which of several cars you might be looking at will have the greatest range. 400 > 300.

    Same with EPA gasoline rated mileages. As always YMMV.
     
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  10. dannycamps

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    Maybe if we push it down a hill in neutral?
     
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    Since you’re in Northern California you can get that range if you drive from Donner summit to the Bay Area :)
     
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  12. rory breaker

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    I don’t think you’re getting the straight answer here.
    Under any driving that is even remotely CLOSE to “normal “ driving IE the speed limit-ish, you will get anywhere from 60%-80%, on average, of your stated range.

    If my S showed 400, which it doesn’t (perf ludicrous), I would expect to, on average, get 290-330 miles out of a displayed 400. Weather, incline/decline, etc all has impact.
     
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    Does it regenerate if in neutral - or only in Drive ? Just wondering out of the blue...
     
  14. Cleo-n-Company

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    From Donner to Auburn - can probably get away with using 25-30 miles of range thanks to the world of regeneration. But that slog into the Bay once you're down the hill...
     
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    If you drive it really aggressively and fast in cold weather I bet you could get it down to 200 miles of range, but I also bet if my wife drove it she could get 400 miles of range...
    MEH...

    It kills everything else on the road for NVH and acceleration, so who cares, I also don't have to smell like a stinky gas station attendant or smell burning oil when they do the sloppy oil changes, like on my ICE.
     
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    What is a warranty claim violation ?

    022 TM AWD CT (cancelled due to warranty claim violation) -
     
  17. Maxpilot

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    I drove 202 miles on a fully charged battery and had 35% left when I got home. I drove 70-75 mph with a strong cross-wind. I guess that gives me a range of about 310 miles.
     
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  18. sorka

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    I've always exceeded EPA rated range in my P85DL in the spring and fall on my 260 mile round trip commute. I've even made it to work and back on a single charge a few times and my EPA rated range when brand new was 253 miles.

    My best ever round trip commute was 259 wh / mile average which would have been 297 miles from the 77 kWh available from the 85 when it was new.
     
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  19. ucmndd

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    Agree. In temperate CA weather at reasonable “5-10 over the limit” speeds I have no trouble getting quite close to 1:1 rated to actual miles on my normal commute.

    This is in a 2016 S75. I don’t know if that’s become more difficult in newer models as Tesla has gotten a bit more aggressive about gaming the EPA test.
     
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    sorka Well-Known Member

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    And disclaimer, that 259 average I got was when I was really trying and sticking to exactly the speed limit which made me the slowest car on the road. A more typical 280 wh / mile is 70 to 72 in the 65.
     

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