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Dogs are better drivers than cats.

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  1. FreeOfPge

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    Dogs are taller, more intelligent and imo better drivers. If a dog were driving this vehicle there would have been far fewer problems, imho.

    I had a Tesla," Clooney told the magazine. "I was one of the first cats with a Tesla. I think I was, like, No. 5 on the list. But I'm telling you, I've been on the side of the road a while in that thing, and I said to them, 'Look, guys, why am I always stuck on the side of the f***ing road? Make it work, one way or another.'"

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/george-clooney-not-happy-tesla-140211099.html
     
  2. brianman

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    Gut reaction:
     
  3. NigelM

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    Whole thread on Roadster Cats over here.
     
  4. Grendal

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    +100 Absolutely correct. Also "I'm a self centered celebrity that doesn't like dealing with real world issues that regular people have to deal with."
     
  5. SwedishAdvocate

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    #5 SwedishAdvocate, Nov 13, 2013
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    Are you sure?

    George Clooney - Humanitarian work - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Personally I think it would be kind of cool if he publicly announced that he had just ordered a Model S. And that actually doesn’t feel like it’s completely out of the realm of the possible... Or then again – maybe he’s just a really hardcore Tango fan… :rolleyes:

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    I'll give you that. It could easily be that I am the one that is being self centered. :)

    I would argue that being a celebrity does skew your world view however.
     
  7. brianman

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    I think of these as different things. I'm not saying the latter doesn't have value (as it definitely does) but it's not evidence that Grendal's position is incorrect.

    An example:
    (A) Donating to a soup kitchen, or managing its finances.
    (B) Spending every Saturday for a year at a soup kitchen serving, cleaning up tables, doing first aid if needed, etc.

    These are different ways of giving. (A) sounds more like Clooney's involvement described in the latter quote. (B) is what Grendal is talking about in the former quote. Or at least that was my read.

    A Tesla example might be:
    (A) Investing in the stock.
    (B) "Donating your time" to help troubleshoot day-to-day problems with an early VIN vehicle rather than whining about how it inconvenienced you sometimes.
     
  8. ElSupreme

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    #9 SwedishAdvocate, Nov 13, 2013
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    :biggrin:


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    I will let Grendal chime in about that if he wants to. :wink:


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    The Huffington Post | George Clooney Spends Nespresso Paycheck On Spy Satellite To Keep Tabs On Omar Al-Bashir

    I haven’t really followed this issue, and I also will not claim to be an expert in any way, but it seems to me that keeping a satellite is hard to do with your (B) above… To me, it seems the only way to get a satellite, is by doing (A)… :cool:


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    And since we’re already off topic in the Off Topic section… :wink:

    About that soup kitchen analogy…

    What do you think about – instead of (A) or (B):

    (S) In a proportionate election to a single parliament, voting for a so called ‘big government solution’ (i.e. progressive taxation), where all the citizens combined through their own government make sure that everyone, – no matter what[SUP]1[/SUP] – gets:

    – A decent roof over their heads (with walls, a window, a door with a lock, a kitchen, a bathroom and a bare minimum of furniture and home appliances).

    – Healthcare if medically justified.

    – Dental care if needed.

    And money to buy:

    – Food, so they don’t starve.

    – Clothes, so they don’t freeze or have to resort to rags.

    – Glasses if needed.

    – And an occasional haircut.

    :rolleyes:


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    [SUP]1[/SUP]Assuming they aren’t criminals of course. In that case they get an appropriate jail cell.
     
  10. brianman

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    Race to the bottom. Economic collapse.

    No incentive -> no motivation for achievement -> none or low quality work -> everybody gets crap, or maybe even nothing.


    And then, in an good roll of the dice situation, it might begin again with "well that was a horrible idea, maybe we should ...".
     
  11. SwedishAdvocate

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    So do you think you yourself, Elon and the many able and highly skilled people on this forum for instance would decide to go for this the absolute lowest socioeconomic standard?

    There would still be plenty of incentive. As I understand it, something like (S) above would not cost that much at all.

    In Sweden during the sixties and seventies for example, many people behind corporate entities like H&M, IKEA, ABB, SAAB, Volvo, AstraZeneca, Tetra Pak, Atlas Copco, Electrolux, SKF (ball bearings) and many, many more, did very, very well even though the tax levels were somewhat higher in Sweden than in the US…
     
  12. brianman

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    Volume dilution of their efforts. If you surround a genius with 999 idiots, he/she can only do so much.
     

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