Stock power Plaid with limiter removed should be around 180mph . Another 10mph has to be like additional 150-200hp. That should put a full weight Plaid into 8s 1/4 mile . Sign me up if they finalize that software upgrade
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Dragy times for Plaid and LR
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If someone does find away to unlock more power in the Plaid, that might cause me to sell my LR, sell my super bikes, and have a really quick daily driver.
As if plaid did not already has enought power
It is kinda funny--last time I went to the drag strip, it was after a trip to Home Depot and a run to the grocery store. Only had 70% SoC because I forgot to plug in. Then, on the way back, picked my dog from the vet. Truly surreal.
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If you have removed almost 600 lbs from the S Plaid then maybe this is what a Model 3 Plaid would be capable of?As if plaid did not already has enought power
Congrats on the times! That really is flying.
Model 3 plaid would weight MORE because of the rear motors which are a LOT bigger than the motor on rear of model 3
I have driven it a bit on the street around home and I can tell you all if Tesla released some kind of 'Competition' model S with lightweight stuff and anything superflous removed (like porsche does) this thing is NIMBLE now with some road racing tires I think this would be crazy
You need to stop posting about this. While I am not regretting buying the Plaid, your times are good enough that they clearly have my interest. Maybe removing a bunch of weight would get the LR to the very low tens and trapping mid 130's.
If they did make a competition or higher spec Plaid though, that would put me over the edge. Other than performance, I never though they did enough to differentiate the Plaid from the LR.
If they did make a competition or higher spec Plaid though, that would put me over the edge. Other than performance, I never though they did enough to differentiate the Plaid from the LR.
Last summer I did almost the same to the 2020 model S performance and got it down to 10.27 @ 129 that give an idea
"Sandbagged" might be a bit strong—after all, the LR is the quickest non-performance Tesla yet. I think that word might be appropriate if the LR was touted as "performance" model, but it's "just" a "regular" Tesla.
I think it feels slower than the performance models because of the throttle response difference between performance and non-performance models. The performance models definitely bring on the power very, very fast, while the non-performance models bring on full power merely quickly. The LR pulls approximately 0.75g from 5MPH to 60MPH. It's mostly that 0-5 that is noticeably difference between, say, an M3P and MSLR.
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That is a concern I have. Last M3P I tested with my Dragy was better than ANY runs I've seen posted here. I didn't buy the S for it to be slower than an M3P. I made a lot of instrumented test runs in M3P's and LR's, MYP and LR's. The M3P hit hardest of all those off the line. My MS LR has never hit as hard as the M3Ps I did off the line.
Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to run my LR with Dragy as it won't connect to my app and I need it to be replaced. If enough of us are seeing issues, we need to start complaining to Tesla very vocally. The MS LR should run very close to a 3.1 with rollout. We are seeing over .3 tenths slower which is HUGE discrepancy at this speed.
Most of the Plaids I've seen run are seeing very close to 2.0 flat. They aren't coming in at 2.3 seconds on a good surface and surface is even more important to those cars.
FWIW, this was at a totally unpreped track and traction was definitely an issue. (I could hear the tires chirp on launch and feel it struggle for traction until at least 40MPH.) I have yet to take it to a proper drag strip with proper surface prep. When I do, I'll post my results here.
I've got a lot of time slips from a 1/4-mile drag strip with our old M3P and it was slower than my MSLR up to the 1/8th mile that I've run the MSLR. (And I'm pretty sure the MSLR will outrun that M3P in the 1/4-mile when I finally get back to that track. We had a "stealth" M3P (lighter 18" wheels) which was a relatively early production car (VIN < 100,000) so maybe newer M3Ps are maybe a bit quicker? But that M3P ran 1/8th-mile in the 7.5s—on a prepped track—while the MSLR consistently runs 7.25-7.35s on an unprepped track.
And I suspect it never will. I've driven a bunch of different Tesla models, and it's clear to me that Tesla uses a different throttle response for their performance cars than their non-performance cars, which I think makes a lot of sense. It's a lot easier to drive non-performance Teslas "gently" (without putting it in Chill mode) because they don't have that "hit" in the initial press of the accelerator pedal. It also gives the performance models a sportier feel.
2022 Model 3 Performance runs 7.30 1/8 mile even on the UberHeavy wheels if you precondition and have greater than 90% battery.
Some people are down to 7.18 for the 1/8 with lighter wheels and other weight reductions.
Interesting. That M3P was about 1/10th quicker for the first half of the 1/8th but then the MSLR overtakes it and finishes slightly quicker and with a noticeably higher trap speed (103MPH vs 96MPH).
Note that my MSLR run shown here was with an SOC of about 88%, but there was less than 0.15 second difference in runs I did down even in the low 70s SOC (i.e. 7.40s), although my trap speeds were only 100MPH.
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Last M3P (2021) I ran a year ago, was a 3.23 w/rollout. That was just on some random side road. The same car on another ran the 1/4 in 11.4 something at over 117. At the time I was much bigger than I am now and was at about 330 pounds so I wasn't help the cars time either.
It was a very good running example. SoC was about 90% and it was a high 80's-low 90's day when I ran it and had the AC on all the time.
I ran an MYP on the same day and it was about a half second slower everywhere. I think it clocked a 3.77 0-60 (w/rollout). It ran just under 12 seconds at 11.97 @ 116. I don't remember the decimal amount to the mph.
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