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He didn’t say he bought one.Who is paying so many incapable of basic research enough to buy one of these cars? Trust fund baby?
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He didn’t say he bought one.Who is paying so many incapable of basic research enough to buy one of these cars? Trust fund baby?
Seems like pretty valid criticism, not sure where the negative responses are coming from.
The car is great, but yes you’re right, it’s not able to sustain ultra high speed as long as a high spec ICE car.
On the other hand, Tesla can hardly be blamed for not highlighting this <0.001% scenario.
And for the OP it’s a 100% scenario.In Europe it is not a 0,001% scenario
When driving in Germany I love to maintain a high speed if my route allows it.
It should be mentioned in my opinion.
Before purchase it is called an explanation, afterwards it is a poor excuse. Trust should be build by good information beforehand and can not be build by poor excuses afterwards.
Even with the problem to maintain real high speed travel I’ll love my MS 75D.
And for the OP it’s a 100% scenario.
But that’s not how statistics work.
Not true i.e. totally false.
How much power is needed for maintaining high speed has nothing to do with a gearbox and everything with exact speed.
Gearbox can only 'spread' available engine/motor power over narrower or wider speed range. A single speed gearbox means a single 'power spread', nothing to choose.
I'm actually pretty sad that this kind of unconstructive posts (some would consider it an insult, hate, envy) are actually posted and tolerated on this forum. A forum like this is the place to ask such questions, and it seems that the OP did his research work but was not successful in finding more information on this issue.Who is paying so many incapable of basic research enough to buy one of these cars? Trust fund baby?
I agree. Even though I'm a speed addict, I could not imagine going back to an ICE that would allow me to sustain the high speed for longer. The reason: I accelerate 100 times more often than I travel at really high speed and find myself limited by the car. And I just love the acceleration. So this overcompensates for the high-speed limitation.On the other hand, Tesla can hardly be blamed for not highlighting this <0.001% scenario.
I agree. I’m guessing it is discussed more frequently in autobahn countries. Car reviews, words of mouth, questions during the sales process, etc.Seems like pretty valid criticism, not sure where the negative responses are coming from.
The car is great, but yes you’re right, it’s not able to sustain ultra high speed as long as a high spec ICE car.
On the other hand, Tesla can hardly be blamed for not highlighting this <0.001% scenario.
I'm sorry but I don't know where you're getting this.You are right. Exclude cars outside Europe and the stastictics will change.
We are both rightYou are right. Exclude cars outside Europe and the stastictics will change.
Boy, the word "devastating" is certainly being used lightly nowadays. How about saying what you (should) mean, like upsetting/distressing/disappointing etc? Or do you prefer the role of a drama queen? The drama takes away from the legitimate point: Tesla Model S don't do so well with sustained high rates of speed, > 120 mph or 190 kph. For most of us, probably all of us outside of Germany, that's a non-issue.Sooo,
After hours and hours of unsuccessfully trying to find a single post or thread about driving high speeds on the Autobahn ( or wherever else you one can do it), I decided to take a P100D on the Autobahn.
The results were devastating. Driving higher speeds with the Tesla is a sad affair. First, it barely makes it to 250 km/h, in fact it doesn’t. Then, after approx 15 minutes, it throttles you down to 220, then 200, and so on. Power consumption is astronomical, too, obviously. You’re not going anywhere at higher speeds.
Now, I understand that the market of owners who drive their Teslas at speeds of 200+ is small, but never less, this demographic has a right to know that it’s basically impossible to do so in a Tesla.
So if you’re thinking of buying a Tesla to use it to drive fast on routes like Nuernberg - Munich, forget about it. It ain’t happening. I just wish Tesla would have been more upfront about it...
Just to clarify,
I do not own a Tesla...yet. Reason for being is the ‘communication problem’ with Tesla. I drive Autobahn daily, and it’s almost always empty and unlimited. So how a Tesla would react to high speed driving is very important to me. I tried to research the forums, nothing. Called up and visited the dealerships, no info (really? Come on, they’re not stupid in Germany. They know EXACTLY that driving fast kills the battery charge and that Tesla regulates the speed according to battery status. But they won’t tell you). I called Tesla Germany. No one could tell me either. I called Tesla US, nada.
Then I drove a MX P100D over the Brenner highway Italy back to Austria, Battery gone after half an hour. I thought the car had a bad battery. Now I tested the MS P100D, same thing.
Here’s an example: Tesla’s battery is at 50% and I’m driving a 10 Minute Autobahn stretch from the city to my home. I would make it home easily at full speed, but the car won’t let my go over 200...
If I buy a 150k P100D and I want to drive it full speed then at least I should be told about the overheating problem, not find out myself. This is supposed to be an overpriced Lambo killer, but in certain ways it fails to do so, and Tesla is not really truthful about it.It’s a major issue if you live in my area and you intend to drive fast, like many do here.
Having said this, I still love the car and the company. The AP is phenomenal. The acceleration is stupid fun. The screen is unmatched.
Btw, here we have the same problem with the German car companies. I just tried the brand new Audi A8. I currently drive an Audi RS6 Avant (and BMW I8, and Morgan 3W...but that’s another story ;o). )and the Audi guys know that I most probably will switch to Tesla, so they tried to convince me that the Audi ‘Stauassist’, Audi’s much hyped version of AP, is so much better than Teslas. It’s a piece of crap, they are so behind Tesla, it’s sad. And they lie about it. They claim that their AP can be activated to Stage 5 as soon as the government allows it. BS, it doesn’t even recognize simple curves...
I hope this thread helps as decision support for all who are intending to drive higher speeds on the Autobahn. And maybe someone knows of a hack of how to overwrite the forced speed throttling ;o)