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Dutch Model S driver uses Autopilot while on the back seat

Vip

Member
Jul 11, 2013
441
78
United States
Surprised that Tesla didn't put in a safety feature that autopilot won't engage or will turn off if the seat pressure indicator is not engaged.
 

sandpiper

Active Member
Sep 25, 2014
2,833
2,141
Ontario, Canada
Surprised that Tesla didn't put in a safety feature that autopilot won't engage or will turn off if the seat pressure indicator is not engaged.

Unfortunately this is the law of large numbers. If you get a big enough group you will invariably wind up with a certain number of mind-blowingly stupid people in the group. And so the rest of us lose out as manufacturers try to protect these jacka$$es$ from themselves.

It would be good to get this clown behind bars for reckless endangerment.
 

widodh

Model S 85 and 100D
Jan 23, 2011
6,853
2,773
Venlo, NL
Surprised that Tesla didn't put in a safety feature that autopilot won't engage or will turn off if the seat pressure indicator is not engaged.

Indeed, that's what I thought as well.

It could say: "No person detected, shutting down in 30 seconds"

Unfortunately this is the law of large numbers. If you get a big enough group you will invariably wind up with a certain number of mind-blowingly stupid people in the group. And so the rest of us lose out as manufacturers try to protect these jacka$$es$ from themselves.

It would be good to get this clown behind bars for reckless endangerment.
Yes, this video clearly shows he's not very smart. Better to have that guy off the public roads.
 

Discoducky

P100DL, 2021 M3, 3 CT reservations and counting
Dec 25, 2011
3,588
4,992
My mountain
Occupant seat sensor and seat belt connected is needed IMO, but at least this person has a passenger (you can see the jeans at 0:10).

TACC has this, why it is not the same for AP currently is a mystery to me.
 

1208

Active Member
Dec 22, 2014
1,371
902
UK
Occupant seat sensor and seat belt connected is needed IMO, but at least this person has a passenger (you can see the jeans at 0:10).

TACC has this, why it is not the same for AP currently is a mystery to me.

Couldn't someone place a heavy weight on the seat and buckle in the seat belt? I do not have a Tesla to know if it's possible.
 

juggie

Member
Aug 14, 2014
63
0
You can expect this (Elon Musk) we are human.
If don't care if an individual take a (big) risk to kill him/her and passenger... I'm more worried when a dictator or president of a country take a (very) big risk with the people...
 

Rockster

Active Member
Oct 22, 2013
3,010
4,617
McKinney, TX
Dear Nimrod,

Pursuant to the Tesla firmware license agreement, Tesla has elected to no longer support your autopilot convenience functions. We have therefore deployed a firmware update that has permanently disabled autopilot convenience functions in your specific vehicle. Autopilot safety features will continue to function normally.

Please find enclosed a refund check in the amount of $2500 USD.

Sincerely,

Tesla Motors
 

PeterK

Model X & 3 Owner
Jan 17, 2013
1,713
657
Cambridge, MA
Occupant seat sensor and seat belt connected is needed IMO, but at least this person has a passenger (you can see the jeans at 0:10).

TACC has this, why it is not the same for AP currently is a mystery to me.

+1

It appears from the alarm beeping and flashing that the passenger doesn't have his/her seatbelt fastened, perhaps to be able to jump over and grab control if there's a problem? That's very safe, I'm reassured. /s
 

Stoneymonster

Active Member
Jan 8, 2013
1,787
1,064
Aptos, Ca
Couldn't someone place a heavy weight on the seat and buckle in the seat belt? I do not have a Tesla to know if it's possible.

Yes. I don't see that as much different than tying a brick to the accelerator. You correct for a single failure (out of the seat) not multiple failures due to stupidity (out of the seat and purposefully defeating the safety).
 

mibaro2

Member
Dec 2, 2012
959
8
Georgetown, ON
Dear Nimrod,

Pursuant to the Tesla firmware license agreement, Tesla has elected to no longer support your autopilot convenience functions. We have therefore deployed a firmware update that has permanently disabled autopilot convenience functions in your specific vehicle. Autopilot safety features will continue to function normally.

Please find enclosed a refund check in the amount of $2500 USD.

Sincerely,

Tesla Motors


+1
But I would take out the refund check.
 

SabrToothSqrl

Active Member
Dec 5, 2014
3,769
3,079
PA
I'm surprised by what I feel is an over-site for the Auto Steer, in that it doesn't require the seat to be occupied and or seat belt to be on.

Especially considering how you can't even engage regular old fashioned cruise control when the traction control is turned off..

I'm sure this basic requirement is coming in 7.1x
 

pgiralt

Supporting Member
Jun 16, 2013
1,520
155
Cary, NC
Wow. I had no issue with wk057's original driverless autopilot video because he did it on a private road and if he messed up his car or hurt himself, that was on him. The guy in this video is endangering the lives of others by pulling this stunt. Someone could have been killed and in a collision between a Model S and some other car, more likely the person getting hurt is in the other car. Whoever made the video should be ashamed of themselves.
 

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