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EAP Coming Back
- Thread starter TomServo
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California is about to force Tesla to stop selling and disable FSD since it is not truly autonomous and violates California law. Tesla will get around this by going back to calling it EAP.
Keith
I suggest Tesla use the following naming convention:
Basic Auto Pilot (BAP)
Enhanced Auto Pilot (EAP)
Advanced Auto Pilot (AAP)
But what do I know.
JeffreyC
Member
For $4k I may consider EAP. All I really want is Auto Lane Change. Having to disengage AP to change lanes is annoying.
I paid $7k for FSD and use auto lane change a lot - my favorite "FSD" feature. I think a $4k EAP is a great option.
I'm glad I bit the bullet and opted for FSD ~2 years ago for $5k. Prices are always going to bounce around and it was nice not having to think about it.
I bit the bullet back then too, then when I sold the car, got literally nothing for it.
So this go around, made complete sense to skip it altogether. Between subscription and tiering plus the limited value FSD actually gives you, it was an easy decision.
On the other hand, there will be the subscription FSD option. If it's about $100 a month that makes more sense than buying it for $10K. I only plan on keeping my Y for 3 years due to technology advancements that seem to be greatest at the 3-year mark with Tesla's.
No way is it $100/month. I'm thinking more like $300. with maybe a minimum number of months you have to have it before you can cancel. I do recall Elon saying that it will be a better deal financially to buy it outright vs the subscription.
I can't see how EAP will be $4K with rumor that FSD will be $14K. More realistic in my mind is EAP for $10K and FSD for $14K, and I agree that $275 - $300/mo for the subscription. Either way, I think $10K, and the absurd new possible price of $14K for FSD is nuts. But I can't blame Tesla for charging this much if they feel they will get substantial purchases at this price. Unfortunately this feels like where Tesla could go wrong with their strategy. I feel the continued price hike only makes EVs look more out-of-reach for the majority of buyers. $300 is a full car payment for many. Even with avg. new car selling price in the US where it is, most cannot drop $14K additional on an ICE let alone an EV that is traditionally more than an ICE.
I thought about going in when EAP was $4K, but I still don't seem to regret it. I use AP extensively, but it makes pretty major mistakes on every trip, and sometimes I need to disable it when it becomes a nuisance at least once per trip (especially if I'm in the right lane, and there is an exit to my right - geez).
I thought about going in when EAP was $4K, but I still don't seem to regret it. I use AP extensively, but it makes pretty major mistakes on every trip, and sometimes I need to disable it when it becomes a nuisance at least once per trip (especially if I'm in the right lane, and there is an exit to my right - geez).
I think the subscription based FSD is because they are not getting enough takers on $10K to be a beta tester for the system. I think that to get more beta testers they will be offering the subscription plan at a reasonable price. If they offer it at an UNreasonable price, they will not get the influx of beta testers that they are looking for.
Keith
PS: If I am wrong, then they will not have me as a Beta tester... if I am right then they will have me as a beta tester on any road trips I take. The ball is in their court
Keith
PS: If I am wrong, then they will not have me as a Beta tester... if I am right then they will have me as a beta tester on any road trips I take. The ball is in their court
TinkyWinks
Member
I hope they bring back EAP for $4k. I missed it by the a day after I took delivery of my car before they discontinued it late last year and have been waiting for an another shot at it.
$300/month for FSD makes the most sense. It would take less than 3 years to reach the $10k. If they really increase to $14k, then I’m not sure, $450/month would make absolutely no sense. That’s a full car payment.
I am really interested in seeing what the subscription offer looks like though. Someone suggested on another thread breaking it down by feature. If that’s possible, I’d be really interested. I’m ready to pay $50/month for auto-lane change, as it’s really the only thing I’m actually interested in in the EAP. But I’m not sure how much business sense it makes, or if it’s even technically possible (although I don’t see why not).
I am really interested in seeing what the subscription offer looks like though. Someone suggested on another thread breaking it down by feature. If that’s possible, I’d be really interested. I’m ready to pay $50/month for auto-lane change, as it’s really the only thing I’m actually interested in in the EAP. But I’m not sure how much business sense it makes, or if it’s even technically possible (although I don’t see why not).
canuckng
Member
I would consider EAP for $4K as well. I missed it after having it on my 2018 Model 3 AWD.
To me auto lane change isn't worth $4,000.
1. click up to shut off AP and immediately click down once to re-engage adaptive cruise
2. put on blinker and change lanes
3. click down again into AP
Am I missing something?
Keith
1. click up to shut off AP and immediately click down once to re-engage adaptive cruise
2. put on blinker and change lanes
3. click down again into AP
Am I missing something?
Keith
Or just turn on turn signal. Like everything with these cars, you can do it all yourself, it’s just a convenience thing. Auto lane change isn’t worth $4k, but that’s not all that EAP is though. There are 4 things in EAP. I might pay $1k for auto lane change, I’d have to ponder.
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