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EAP Sales Tax if purchased later?

Discussion in 'Model 3: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by jgd108, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. jgd108

    jgd108 Member

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    Hi!

    I'm not getting clear answers from searching the forums so let me ask owners of M3 in California who didn't buy EAP while ordering their car:
    If you go and try to enable / purchase EAP for 6k, is that including sales tax?

    Secondary to this, any implications with insurance by adding a 6k option to your car?
    Thanks!
     
  2. Daniel in SD

    Daniel in SD Well-Known Member

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    That's a good question. Also, does your yearly VLF (vehicle license fee) increase when you purchase EAP later?
    Seems like a loophole.
    I've never had an insurance company ask about options on a car. I guess the major ones are encoded in the VIN?
     
  3. MelaniainLA

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    Change address in Tesla account to New Hampshire for a moment. Order the update tax free. Then switch back to CA.

    Insurance only cares about non-manufacturer options. If you get totaled, they hardly pay anything for options to begin with!
     
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  4. MIT_S60

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    Yes, you'll pay sales tax in CA.
     
  5. Tam

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    When I signed up for my insurance, they base the premium on the total price before taxes and registration fees.

    Let me understand:

    Even though Insurance charges me a premium for $49,000 for a Model 3 but I can only file for coverage to a maximum of $35,000 because that's the base cost before adding on other options of $9,000 for Long Range Battery and mandatory $5,000 for Premium Upgrades?
     
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  6. PoitNarf

    PoitNarf My dog's breath smells like dog food

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    I doubt this would work. The credit card charge would not go through because when making the charge the billing address will not match the address on file with your CC company. Of course if you actually have another home in a state with no sales tax you could probably change your billing address to there to make it work. If someone has actually gotten this to work and does not have a second home in NH for example then that’s quite the loophole.

    Sales tax is one of the reasons I ordered EAP with the car. In NJ there is no sales tax on EVs so any options I add are considered part of the whole car and not taxed. If I had purchased EAP afterwards not only would it have cost $1000 more but I would also have to pay $397.50 in NJ sales tax.
     
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  7. jgd108

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    You give the best ideas!! Might have to use a friend's credit card in Portland or something.. :p

    Thanks for confirming.
     
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  8. MIT_S60

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    If a car gets totaled, the insurance company bases the value of the car at the time of the accident, and traditionally options depreciate faster than the base price of the car. Just throwing numbers out there (they're definitely not meant to be taken as accurate), let's say the base price of the car depreciates by 30% over a year, the options might actually depreciate by 70% over that time. Thus percentage-wise a base model will depreciate slower than a fully optioned one.
     
  9. Trips

    Trips "Boring bonehead questions are not cool. Next?"

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    I believe as of a couple weeks ago, the software would NOT let you update to the EAP after the purchase. I'm not sure if they have updated or if it can be done at the service center.

    As for aftermarket options you just have to let your insurance know. Depending on your insurance this can be a pain but like with battery upgrades it can be done. A few years ago I totaled a three month old vehicle that I added an aftermarket alarm and TVs. After the cost for upgrades I walked away with $1,500 more then I had invested in it.
     
  10. kmngq

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    i was told there was no sales tax.
    flat $6k out the door.
    i guess not?
     
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  11. PoitNarf

    PoitNarf My dog's breath smells like dog food

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    #11 PoitNarf, Mar 26, 2018
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    Depends on your state. For California you'll need to pay sales tax.

    Edit: (or maybe not, see post below) I should probably only comment on NJ sales tax stuff :)
     
  12. Tam

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    #12 Tam, Mar 26, 2018
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    According to the link:

    Are Software and Digital Products taxable in California?

    California downloaded software are not taxable

    However, when I bought mine at the same time when the car was delivered, I guess they called it "Canned Software - Delivered on Tangible Media" because the software is housed in the car and that car is delivered with the software already activated inside, so it's taxable.

    So for California, to skip paying sales tax, buy the download version after delivery.

    However, while you do save on California sales tax, you pay directly to Tesla on post-delivery fee very heavily which is worse than paying sales tax to the government.

    So, it's a matter of whether you want to pay less of a fee to the government or skip it and pay a much higher fee to Tesla itself.



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  13. kengchang

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    It's considered a car option not DLC software; therefore, there's sales tax in CA
     
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