stopcrazypp
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None of the extra EAP features rely on radar (rather rely on side/rear cameras), so not seeing how that plays a role. Rather it's the standard AP features that do.
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EAP upgrade coming back
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Stop letting your logic and reason get in the way of people throwing their indignation about changes around! /s
Smart summon is an EAP feature that is being disabled on non-radar cars.
Can you explain why smart summon and Emergency Lane Departure Avoidance needed to be removed based on Radar being removed? These don't obviously use radar either, yet they had to be disabled. It's not actually very clear or obvious where and why Tesla uses radar, and how the other features may degrade with the loss of radar.
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This move towards EAP and FSD again is really odd with the idea that a sub is on the horizon.
We already have the issue that for current EAP cars, FSD is $5K. If you have EAP, all FSD adds is stoplight control today, and supposedly city streets "Soon." But for AP cars, FSD is $10K, but adds all the EAP stuff, plus the FSD stuff.
If there is a fixed price subscription (whatever that price is), people with EAP get a lot less for that sub than an AP does, so the take rate for EAP cars will likely be a lot less, reducing the revenue Tesla gets to see.
Now it appears Tesla is throwing themselves into this yet again? Some people with EAP, some people with just AP, but a subscription for "FSD" on the horizon? Will Tesla have two or even 3 FSD sub prices based on what other options your car has?
Makes me wonder if they're going to require EAP to be purchased in order to subscribe to FSD- That's a pretty tricky way for Tesla to have a reasonable FSD sub price, force people to fully buy the features that are there today, and not piss off the people that paid for FSD @10K in the past also.
We already have the issue that for current EAP cars, FSD is $5K. If you have EAP, all FSD adds is stoplight control today, and supposedly city streets "Soon." But for AP cars, FSD is $10K, but adds all the EAP stuff, plus the FSD stuff.
If there is a fixed price subscription (whatever that price is), people with EAP get a lot less for that sub than an AP does, so the take rate for EAP cars will likely be a lot less, reducing the revenue Tesla gets to see.
Now it appears Tesla is throwing themselves into this yet again? Some people with EAP, some people with just AP, but a subscription for "FSD" on the horizon? Will Tesla have two or even 3 FSD sub prices based on what other options your car has?
Makes me wonder if they're going to require EAP to be purchased in order to subscribe to FSD- That's a pretty tricky way for Tesla to have a reasonable FSD sub price, force people to fully buy the features that are there today, and not piss off the people that paid for FSD @10K in the past also.
Totally agree. I have even turned off NOA on my EAP car.
The only EAP function I use is auto-lane change which I absolutely love on the open road (passing big rigs), but that's a trip I only make ~4 times per year, and don't need two cars with that functionality.
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Gizmo35
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Bought EAP last time around. Would buy it again. I still think it should be around $2500-$3000 in my mind. I use dumb summon alot, NOA with confirm lane changes i use on highway trips of 50 or more miles. Smart summon works well for me but I dont use it as frequent because I can walk to the car faster. I usually start the summon and continue to walk and meet the car halfway and I guess I just know when and where to use it to get the desired result. Autopark is my least used feature because I rarely have to parallel park. When I do, it works for me no issues. I have not tried using it for perpendicular parking.
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