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eAP vs. Self-Driving Hardware

Discussion in 'Model X' started by S__B, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. S__B

    S__B Member

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    One question I've been struggling to get out of my delivery specialist is whether my MX will come with 4 or 8 cameras pre-installed for eAP. I'm presuming 4 but does that mean that the extra 4 cameras required for Self-Driving can be installed after delivery and only for a minimal amount of extra money?

    The difference in the UK is only an extra £900 to have self-driving enabled after delivery (instead of before delivery) which seems very cheap if they have to install 4 extra cameras on the vehicle!
     
  2. Saghost

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    Most folks seem to think everything will be installed on all the cars, and the upgrade will be purely software.

    It's not the $500 penalty Tesla normally charges to upgrade after production, though - it's twice that, for each system separately, which I think could indicate they are installing new hardware (or they just think it'll convince more people to pay for it initially.)

    I'm sure we'll find out soon.
     
  3. travwill

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    You'll know soon after some deliveries; however, it is almost 100% likely that all hardware is installed. That is why it even states an upgade cost/option after delivery for autonomous. They have always done this as:

    1. It is easier to produce everything with the same hardware.
    2. They will make more $ if you turn it on after delivery.
    3. They will make more $ if you didn't want it, resell, and next buyer turns on.
    4. If you lease or trade in the car, they will resell the car with it enabled at a higher price and make $.

    No brainer.
     
  4. plankeye

    plankeye That Vegan EV Guy

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    You wouldn't be able to upgrade after the fact if all of the hardware wasn't there from the start. So, it will all be installed on ALL cars, no matter what you order.
     
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    On the US website the Full Self-Driving Capability option states that "This doubles the number of active cameras from four to eight..." rather than saying installed cameras. Have to admit that it is disappointing that the staff has not been thoroughly trained on the AP 2.0 issue.
     
  6. MorrisonHiker

    MorrisonHiker S 90D 17.32.6ca28227

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    All 8 cameras are installed. For EAP, they only use two front-facing and two rear-facing cameras. For FSDC, they will use all 8 cameras.

    Enhanced Autopilot:
    Full Self-Driving Capability:
     
  7. S__B

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    Yes, I think you're all right. 8 cameras installed but only 4 activated unless you opt for full self-driving.

    One other thing I've been curious about is the 4 active cameras for eAP. Technically there are three forward facing cameras now installed behind the rear-view mirror (close, mid and long range) but am guessing they are counting that as one camera with the other three being rear, left and right?
     
  8. Saghost

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    Nope. Both the option and Elon's Q&A now spell it out. The four the car is using are two of the forward cameras (presumably the normal and the "long range" one) and the left rear and right rear. The rear camera is presumably active as a backup camera, but is not being used by EAP.
     
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