for some reason I read your post as "I'm a heavy drinker"
Early Access Program (overflow from 2018.39 4a3910f thread)
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for some reason I read your post as "I'm a heavy drinker"
SpudLime
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ITT, people who dont understand simple rules of keeping confidential. And folks wonder why Tesla doesnt let anyone request access to the EAP. They cant even get the folks they invite to STFU.
ucmndd
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Most (all?) of the people talking about their personal experience with the v9 betas in this thread are not EAP participants.
SpudLime
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Have you not seen the latest posts from folks saying they got the invite?
They are literally violating the NDA on day one.
It's not an NDA until after you agree.
Tesla can rescind the offer to those who mentioned their invite, but that is not a violation of anything.
I’m no NDA expert but if they are talking about receiving the email before they actually agreed to the NDA they would not be breaking it. It’s actually interesting and a good sign they are increasing their pool of “testers” for their software releases.
Nothing to break if they have not yet agreed.
I would doubt it, except perhaps a short term trial. There are lots of people that paid for FSD that they could pull into the program w/o giving away free stuff.
SpudLime
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Technically you are both correct. Im going on the assumption that most folks will accept. But regardless, it still sets a tone that Tesla is trying to avoid and keep confidential. It stinks because those of us that actually understand the point of the NDA and want to help, cant because folks dont understand that even posting they got an invite should not be mentioned.
Doesn't that require uninstalling Tesla-fi access?
Problems that show up at the edges of your operating range.
Hot : ok
high voltage: ok
hot and high voltage: bad
SpudLime
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Didn't we all agree to not share any info on the early access builds?
Before signing up, please review the following program rules:
Before signing up, please review the following program rules:
- You must agree to keep your experiences in the program confidential.
- You may not share any information about this program with the public-e.g. posting on any forums, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, etc.
- You may not use any third party apps that access data from your vehicle-e.g. TeslaFi, ev-fw.com, etc.
And? We already had a few confirmed cars on 2018.5 and 2018.9's early access program (5 in fact) report to TeslaFi. A few of the cars getting 2018.39.4 have gotten .2 and .3. These are almost certainly EAP cars violating their NDA. They shouldn't be doing so, but it happens.
boonedocks
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Tesla is probably hoping for some "leaks" as they take the next few months to iron out the "corner cases" for V9.0 hoping we all forget about the September '18 tweeted date for V9.0 LOL LOL
ucmndd
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That's a pretty big assumption. Does the EAP NDA have a "fight club" rule that says you can't even publicly divulge that you're a member? I kinda doubt it, but neither you or I know for sure.
Plus there's the already discussed matter of "violating" an NDA you haven't agreed to. Talking about someone inviting you to sign an NDA doesn't violate said NDA.
SpudLime
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Not everyone's common sense is the same I suppose. Working IC and dealing with NDA's all the time gives me a different perspective. But I digress, too far off topic we have gone.
dhanson865
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Not if they post here and then sign the NDA afterwards. NDA's generally aren't retroactive.
The EAP one doesn't seem fairly hardcore. I've once signed an NDA at my day job where it stated in bold "FINANCIAL RESTITUTION WILL NOT BE DEEMED ADEQUATE" in the case of violating it. Not sure what they would've wanted blood of my first born or something else, but I wasn't daring to find out.
chispas
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That was exactly what I was thinking. Even if using Teslafi goes against the TOS I assume not everyone revokes their access.
TT97
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I am involved in many NDAs at work. And yes, until you sign the NDA you are not liable, however, if we had any vendor that would discuss anything the NDA would cover prior to signing would automatically have the relationship terminated.
I can see Tesla pulling the invite to anyone taking about it (although I don't think they are going to go to the effort to linking usernames to cars/owners).
