Easy Entry Seat Belt problem (solution?)

[Daniellane]

Is it just me, or is anyone else getting constricted by the lap belt when pressing the “Park” button when “Easy Entry” mode is active?
I have the Easy Entry profile adjusted to fully raise and move the steering wheel forward plus setting the seat higher than my normal driving position.
This causes the seat belt to get uncomfortably tight.
The passenger side of my garage is a bit tight, so I often let my wife out of the car before I pull in. She opens the door and I get the open door warning. So, Instinctively put in Park and the big squeeze begins.
I wish “Park” was not the trigger.
To me, unbuckling my seat belt while in Park should initiate the sequence.

 

[eschummer]

I agree. Every time I stop to pick up or drop off anyone and I temporarily put in in Park everything moves. Much better to have it linked to the seat belt unbuckling. I now have it disabled because it's juts too annoying. Perhaps with the next update?

 

[Daniellane]

I agree. Every time I stop to pick up or drop off anyone and I temporarily put in in Park everything moves. Much better to have it linked to the seat belt unbuckling. I now have it disabled because it's juts too annoying. Perhaps with the next update?

I just submitted the following suggestion through the online support inquiry form. I will report back if and when I get a response from Tesla.

Thank you for releasing the “Easy Entry” feature in the recent software update. I would like to offer a suggestion of a minor tweak that will help eliminate an issue with the current implementation. When I have “Easy Entry” active for my profile I am constricted by the lap belt when pressing the “Park” button.
I have the Easy Entry profile adjusted to fully raise and move the steering wheel forward plus setting the seat higher than my normal driving position. This causes the seat belt to get uncomfortably tight.
Very often when dropping off a passenger and they open their door I get the open door warning while still in ‘D” with the brake depressed. So, instinctively put it in Park and the big squeeze begins.
My suggestion is to not use “Park” as the trigger.
Instead use unbuckling the driver’s seat belt while in Park to initiate the sequence.

 

[Boatguy]

For everything except the most critical driving functions, Tesla does not test, they code and release. We are the QA department; good catch. Maybe they will read this thread and fix it. Or maybe like 100 other problems noted here they will ignore it while advertising the new "easy entry" feature.

 

[Daniellane]

For everything except the most critical driving functions, Tesla does not test, they code and release. We are the QA department; good catch. Maybe they will read this thread and fix it. Or maybe like 100 other problems noted here they will ignore it while advertising the new "easy entry" feature.

I would hope that there are different teams working on critical driving functions and convenience features.
Very pleased with the progress of EAP on AP2 as of late. (2017.46.8 50d6145) Very comparable to AP1.
I suspect it to get better and overtake AP1 in the not too distant future.
Living in the Northwest, automatic wipers is on the top of my wish list.
Hopefully they have someone dedicated getting it working using AP2 cameras.

 

[Boatguy]

I would hope that there are different teams working on critical driving functions and convenience features.
Very pleased with the progress of EAP on AP2 as of late. (2017.46.8 50d6145) Very comparable to AP1.
I suspect it to get better and overtake AP1 in the not too distant future.
Living in the Northwest, automatic wipers is on the top of my wish list.
Hopefully they have someone dedicated getting it working using AP2 cameras.

I'm sure you're correct and there are different teams on driving functions and convenience. But apparently the latter do no testing as the experience with the "easy access" is not new. Just look at the threads on the media player.

AP2 should have been functional over a year ago when it shipped. It's amazing that new owners have tolerated over a year of paying for a product and getting less functionality than an "old" car.

With regard to the wipers, my early 2016 has automatic wipers, are you sure you do not? My wiper stalk has five positions:

- off
- low automatic
- high automatic
- low speed constant
- high speed constant

 

[Daniellane]

I'm sure you're correct and there are different teams on driving functions and convenience. But apparently the latter do no testing as the experience with the "easy access" is not new. Just look at the threads on the media player.

AP2 should have been functional over a year ago when it shipped. It's amazing that new owners have tolerated over a year of paying for a product and getting less functionality than an "old" car.

With regard to the wipers, my early 2016 has automatic wipers, are you sure you do not? My wiper stalk has five positions:

- off
- low automatic
- high automatic
- low speed constant
- high speed constant

Absolutely sure.
My MS90D AP2 was built in March 2017.
No Rain Sensors. Only the 3 front facing Cameras. They believed it would be easy to use the cameras to detect rain, apparently, it has proven to be a bit of a challenge.
Many threads dedicated tio this topic on this forum.

 

[Boatguy]

Absolutely sure.
My MS90D AP2 was built in March 2017.
No Rain Sensors. Only the 3 front facing Cameras. They believed it would be easy to use the cameras to detect rain, apparently, it has proven to be a bit of a challenge.
Many threads dedicated tio this topic on this forum.

Wow! AP2 was a bigger step backwards than I had understood. That's been a standard feature in cars for a long time.

Thank you.

 

[Daniellane]

Wow! AP2 was a bigger step backwards than I had understood. That's been a standard feature in cars for a long time.

Thank you.

I have been told they are still testing the software. In fact, I have heard from multiple sources that someone from Tesla traveled to Portland, OR to test a beta version of camera based automatic wiping software. I’m guessing during the “Portland Rain Festival,” held each year January 1st through December 31st.
(Full disclosure, I can’t take credit for that • I saw it on a sweatshirt in a store in Portland over 12 years ago)
Not having that feature is not an option.
I paid for FSD.
Cannot possibly be implemented without automatic Wiping.

 

[BerTX]

Until I read this thread, I would have had no thought or concept that someone would move the seat up or forward to have easy entry/exit. Maybe the software developers didn't either.

Still, even with my setting (back and down) would cause issues if I put the car in Park and sit there, then press the brake. The belt would take up slack as the seat moved back, then squish when it resets to my profile. Yeah, okay, not ideal.

 

[Daniellane]

Until I read this thread, I would have had no thought or concept that someone would move the seat up or forward to have easy entry/exit. Maybe the software developers didn't either.

Still, even with my setting (back and down) would cause issues if I put the car in Park and sit there, then press the brake. The belt would take up slack as the seat moved back, then squish when it resets to my profile. Yeah, okay, not ideal.

For me, it’s more like “Easy Exit”
Gravity is on my side with Entry.
I traded in my Hylander in for the Model S.
I liked the ease of exit from a higher elevation.

 

[SDRick]

Many cars have "comfort exit" triggered by drivers door.

 

[Boatguy]

Many cars have "comfort exit" triggered by drivers door.

Yes, my last Mercedes would lift the wheel. Raising the seat higher is a great idea given the wider side rails and low seat position. The OP's point is that raising the seat without releasing the seat belt creates a squeeze.

Does anyone know if the seat belt release is electro-mechanical, or purely mechanical?

 

[Daniellane]

I just submitted the following suggestion through the online support inquiry form. I will report back if and when I get a response from Tesla.

Thank you for releasing the “Easy Entry” feature in the recent software update. I would like to offer a suggestion of a minor tweak that will help eliminate an issue with the current implementation. When I have “Easy Entry” active for my profile I am constricted by the lap belt when pressing the “Park” button.
I have the Easy Entry profile adjusted to fully raise and move the steering wheel forward plus setting the seat higher than my normal driving position. This causes the seat belt to get uncomfortably tight.
Very often when dropping off a passenger and they open their door I get the open door warning while still in ‘D” with the brake depressed. So, instinctively put it in Park and the big squeeze begins.
My suggestion is to not use “Park” as the trigger.
Instead use unbuckling the driver’s seat belt while in Park to initiate the sequence.

Just got this Email response:

Hello Daniel,

Thank you for your email and for your suggestions. At Tesla we are constantly looking to improve and upgrade our products and feedback is very important to us. We do appreciate your input and feedback and I will document your account. If you have any other questions feel free to contact us at 1-877-798-3752.

Thank you,

Yasu | Service Support Specialist, NA
45500 Fremont Blvd | Fremont, CA 94538
24/7 Support 1-877-79-TESLA (83752).

 

[Daniellane]

Just got this Email response:

Hello Daniel,

Thank you for your email and for your suggestions. At Tesla we are constantly looking to improve and upgrade our products and feedback is very important to us. We do appreciate your input and feedback and I will document your account. If you have any other questions feel free to contact us at 1-877-798-3752.

Thank you,

Yasu | Service Support Specialist, NA
45500 Fremont Blvd | Fremont, CA 94538
24/7 Support 1-877-79-TESLA (83752).

AMAZING! Tesla Listens!

They actually implemented my suggestion I submitted on 11/26!

Just finished installing 2017.50.1 ceae3b8.

It’s awesome not to get the big squeeze from the belt anymore!

Cudos to Tesla Support again for being so responsive!

 

[lunitiks]

Yeah that really cool