Electricity is $5/gallon

[1.21GW]

At $0.15 / kWh, electricity costs the equivalent to $5/gallon of gasoline

Just a random fact of the day. Enjoy

* 1 gallon = 33.7 kWh
** Long range Model 3 holds just over 2 gallons of equivalent energy
***Luckily EVs are more efficient

 

[marusan]

If gasoline were $5/gal, I suspect ICE cars would start getting more efficient again.

 

[Daniel in SD]

The most efficient engines are only about 40% efficient though

 

[chronopc]

At $0.15 / kWh, electricity costs the equivalent to $5/gallon of gasoline

Just a random fact of the day. Enjoy

* 1 gallon = 33.7 kWh
** Long range Model 3 holds just over 2 gallons of equivalent energy
***Luckily EVs are more efficient

At $0.15 / kWh each mile in a model 3 costs about 3.6 cents.

 

[Robotpedlr]

At $0.15 / kWh each mile in a model 3 costs about 3.6 cents.

Based on that number, taking it a step further. Assuming an equivalent ICE car would get about 30/mpg. That means you are paying the equivalent of about $1.08/gal (30 miles x 3.6 cents). Which is similar to my calcs for my MS at 11 cents/Kwh. So MUCH better than $5/gal

 

[JeffK]

If you had a large enough pre-existing solar installation plus storage then it'd be next to $0 / gallon. So there's that.

 

[Verynoice]

Those calculations are all fine and nice, but when was the last time you pulled up to a building in an ICE car and filled your tank for free?

 

[commasign]

$8000 for a 2kW solar PV system will generate enough electricity to drive about 15,000 miles per year for 20+ years. Let's say 20 years to be conservative (also the typical panel warranty these days). 20 years x 15,000 miles/yr = 300,000 miles. Assuming a 30mpg premium gas car equivalent, that would be 10,000 gallons of gas. $8000/10,000 gallons = $0.80/gallon.

Ok, gotta factor in replacing the inverter at some point and decreased efficiency of the panels over time, and maybe you live somewhere that doesn't get as much sun, and maybe you drive a big "less efficient" EV SUV, and maybe we'll compare it to a 50mpg hybrid, but we're still in the ballpark of under $1.50/gallon equivalent even in the worst case scenario.

 

[SageBrush]

At $0.15 / kWh, electricity costs the equivalent to $5/gallon of gasoline

Just a random fact of the day. Enjoy

* 1 gallon = 33.7 kWh
** Long range Model 3 holds just over 2 gallons of equivalent energy
***Luckily EVs are more efficient

Too bad that power plants waste ~ 2/3 to make electricity.

 

[CricTic]

I can fill my ICE with 2 gallons of gas in about 10 seconds.

YOUR MOVE TESLA!!

 

[Zythryn]

At $0.15 / kWh, electricity costs the equivalent to $5/gallon of gasoline

Just a random fact of the day. Enjoy

* 1 gallon = 33.7 kWh
** Long range Model 3 holds just over 2 gallons of equivalent energy
***Luckily EVs are more efficient

I think you mean “Just random bad math of the day.”

 

[SageBrush]

$8000 for a 2kW solar PV system will generate enough electricity to drive about 15,000 miles per year for 20+ years. Let's say 20 years to be conservative (also the typical panel warranty these days). 20 years x 15,000 miles/yr = 300,000 miles. Assuming a 30mpg premium gas car equivalent, that would be 10,000 gallons of gas. $8000/10,000 gallons = $0.80/gallon.

Yep, although it can be much cheaper.

I paid 1/3 your presumed cost for top of the line equipment. My car runs 0.5 cents a mile to fuel. The same 30 mpg car would have to find gas at 15 cents a gallon to compete.

 

[gregd]

I can fill my ICE with 2 gallons of gas in about 10 seconds.

YOUR MOVE TESLA!!

Your ICE can empty your wallet about 10 times faster than my EV.

 

[Garlan Garner]

I can fill my ICE with 2 gallons of gas in about 10 seconds.

YOUR MOVE TESLA!!

And then only use about a pint of it to actually move the car.

I would challenge you to hook up your ICE exhaust through your bedroom window and have a good nights sleep.
I can run my EV in my room.

Your Move.

 

[SageBrush]

I can fill my ICE with 2 gallons of gas in about 10 seconds.

YOUR MOVE TESLA!!

This is too easy ...

Two gallons, $6, say 50 miles range and 12 cents a mile

I plug in at home, 5 seconds spent
After a good nights sleep, I take the plug out: 5 seconds
Up to 340 miles, 0.5 cents a mile

 

[brianman]

Ignoring vehicles and the overhead of preparing and delivering that gasoline for a moment...

What's the most efficient consumer-available gasoline-to-energy converter that fits in a one-car garage these days?

 

[1.21GW]

Gasoline? 41% brake thermal efficient Toyota TNGA 2.0L engine in hybrid applications

Diesels can do better, but the Toyota is leading the gasoline engines, Granted its peak efficiency is in a very narrow portion of the operation.

 

[Lloyd]

I can fill my ICE with 2 gallons of gas in about 10 seconds.

YOUR MOVE TESLA!!

I can fill my Tesla every night in about 2 seconds. The time it takes me to plug it in, and for Free with solar.

 

[PoitNarf]

Ignoring vehicles and the overhead of preparing and delivering that gasoline for a moment...

What's the most efficient consumer-available gasoline-to-energy converter that fits in a one-car garage these days?

If you’re thinking of getting a portable generator get a dual fuel one that works on gasoline or propane. Gas will go bad eventually, but propane can be stored indefinitely. Propane can also still be obtained in a power outage when a gas station pump would be inoperable.

 

[CricTic]

And then only use about a pint of it to actually move the car.

I would challenge you to hook up your ICE exhaust through your bedroom window and have a good nights sleep.
I can run my EV in my room.

Your Move.

Well, that got dark pretty quickly.