Not really. Continue to receive input from a Model 3 owner on the West Coast who continues to report on varying levels of output with a lifetime average of 98kW Supercharging.
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Electrify America Fast Chargers - Huh?
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Still the best charging option available... Harvard Business Review: Tesla Superchargers leave competitors 'in the dust"
"According to the authors, "The reason why consumers still choose Teslas over products like Audi’s eTron or attractive EVs from GM’s Buick, Cadillac, GMC, and Chevy brands is perhaps surprisingly simple. They can drive their Teslas for long distances in full confidence that they will find convenient locations at which to recharge their vehicle. While the incumbent automakers are still focused narrowly on perfecting their electric cars, Tesla has been thinking about the entire vehicle system, with the aim of solving consumers’ core driving needs."
In contrast, looking at the options for legacy automakers, "the network of available [non-Tesla] charging stations is highly fractured across ownership and technology. The next largest network, compared to Tesla, is only 10% as large. Unless you buy a Tesla, you have few options for reliable route planning, guaranteed access, and rapid public charging."
"According to the authors, "The reason why consumers still choose Teslas over products like Audi’s eTron or attractive EVs from GM’s Buick, Cadillac, GMC, and Chevy brands is perhaps surprisingly simple. They can drive their Teslas for long distances in full confidence that they will find convenient locations at which to recharge their vehicle. While the incumbent automakers are still focused narrowly on perfecting their electric cars, Tesla has been thinking about the entire vehicle system, with the aim of solving consumers’ core driving needs."
In contrast, looking at the options for legacy automakers, "the network of available [non-Tesla] charging stations is highly fractured across ownership and technology. The next largest network, compared to Tesla, is only 10% as large. Unless you buy a Tesla, you have few options for reliable route planning, guaranteed access, and rapid public charging."
Merrill
Merrill
This is where you have to give Elon high praise, not only did he design and manufacture at nice looking BEV from the ground up, he looked into why people would not buy them and installed Tesla superchargers through out the world. So far no other car manufacturer has done this even though they are marketing and manufacturing all electric vehicles.
I generally agree with this. Tesla is the only company to deploy its own widespread network. Although, it’s true that Ionity in Europe is a consortium of several non-Tesla automakers. In the U.S. those car companies are instead relying on VW’s Electrify America court settlement.
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https://www.plugshare.com/location/244754Oddly, (per EA's app), it has TWO CHAdeMO (on TWO different chargers, yay) and 6 CCS. And, allegedly, the CHAdeMO handles are capable of up to 100 kW.
This is quite a deviation from their usual crippling CHAdeMO to 50 kW and only installing 1 CHAdeMO and 5 to 7 CCS at each site...
The EA app shows that this site is associated with the EVolveNY charger network. So, that is probably why it has better CHAdeMO support than other EA sites.
NYPA's EVolve NY opens first of many 350kW charging stations that will blanket the state - Electrek
Wow! TIL.
That also might be related to why it's "only" 35 cents per kWh in NY per Pricing and Plans for EV Charging | Electrify America (above article refers to that rate) whereas most of the rest of the US on EA that's on per kWh billing get screwed with 43 cents/kWh for guests/Pass users.
I got a free session on EA tonight (finished around 10:15 pm Pacific time) thanks to the hint at Complimentary charging on EA today in Tennessee.... My reply was in post 6 there.
Good day to charge at EA, and yet another reason why I... has the supposed reason why. I wonder how long they'll remain free.
Good day to charge at EA, and yet another reason why I... has the supposed reason why. I wonder how long they'll remain free.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Hyundai gets in the game...
electrek.co
2021 Hyundai Ioniq/Kona get 1,000 miles of EA charging as network expands
2021 Hyundai Ioniq and Kona owners and prospective owners from today will get a free 250kWh of fast charging at...
electrek.co
Merrill
Merrill
Since I posted my remarks about Tesla as the only BEV to have superchargers, Rivian has said they will also have superchargers exclusive to Rivian.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Interesting reading about the state of charging infrastructure in the USA.
Arizona, California, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Washington have the lowest number of charging outlets per 1,000 EVs.
electrek.co
Arizona, California, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Washington have the lowest number of charging outlets per 1,000 EVs.
The best (and worst) US states for EV charging
A comprehensive breakdown of the best and worst charging infrastructures in the US, sorted by state using ratio data of EVs to chargers.
electrek.co
This is a tad misleading since most EV charging is done (and is best done) at home or at work and they don't count those stations. Also, if one counts 120v outlets (which will work for many people) the number of charging stations far exceeds the number of EVs.Interesting reading about the state of charging infrastructure in the USA.
Arizona, California, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Washington have the lowest number of charging outlets per 1,000 EVs.
We do need more DCFCs along the highways though, and, in the near term, available for those who's apartments or condos don't yet have charging.
Looks like it is tied for 5th place with NJ but NJ has 5 more currently under construction and 6 more with permits.
WA was alone in 5th place for a few days. But a new one opened in NJ a couple days ago and Bellevue is no longer operational so it’s already slid back to 6th. And as MH points out, WA will surely drop in the rankings as there is nothing in permitting or construction phase at this time (unless you count Bellevue 
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).The problem is the grid support (currently at 30%, I believe) not the number of outlets.
Many apartments have chargers and others are updating. At my apartment, I have a 120V in my private garage, with a few Level-2 chargers outside which is almost always available... all free!
Huh? Rivian is also calling them superchargers? If not, please avoid using that term to talk about DC fast charging/chargers for non-Teslas. It can create a lot of confusion, esp. to those who don't know much/anything about EVs.
Merrill
Merrill
Not sure what the problem is here, Rivian will have DC fast chargers that will give you 140 miles in 20 minutes. This is very close to the Tesla Superchargers, so to me compared to everything else out their they are supercharges.
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