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Electrify America general discussion
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Where are the EA track chargers?... oh, wait!
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RayK
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
RayK
Active Member
Yeah, that I can't tell you. Other than the fact that I checked the EA charger at a local BofA and the CHAdeMO handle was down but they said the CCS was working.
Tesla Model 3 charges faster on an Electrify America charging station than on a Tesla V3 Supercharger
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Again, this assumes that you can find a working EA charger...
I don't understand the need for constantly trolling.Again, this assumes that you can find a working EA charger...
Do you feel the need to constantly bring attention to yourself?
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Can you have an honest discussion about the reliability issues facing EA?
I would like to see all charging networks grow - perhaps Siemens can help.
You already made your point.
Tesla Supercharger is more reliable. Woo! Hoo!
Now, it's time to move on...
Jeremy3292
Active Member
I cannot get higher than 132 kW on my local EA 500 amp name plated listed station so this chart is entirely dependent on "luck of the draw" with whatever EA station you are at.
TomServo
Active Member
While I bought a CCS adapter, and follow these discussions closely (I’m a 70 year old disabled vet) that take 3 to 4 2K mile road trips a year to visit our grand children, we can’t afford to get stranded or horribly delayed during our trips.
So for us and probably many others you have to ask your self, as a Tesla owner would you relay totally on the myriad of CCS DCFC companies for 100% of your charging needs? I can answer that, NO. I bought the CCS adapter purely as a backup. My initial charging strategy will always be road trip via Tesla Super Chargers. It’s clear the competition has some work to do with regards to Charger availability.
So for us and probably many others you have to ask your self, as a Tesla owner would you relay totally on the myriad of CCS DCFC companies for 100% of your charging needs? I can answer that, NO. I bought the CCS adapter purely as a backup. My initial charging strategy will always be road trip via Tesla Super Chargers. It’s clear the competition has some work to do with regards to Charger availability.
Another strategy can be to prefer a CCS site but make sure you have a Supercharger site as a backup.
For example, there might be an Electrify America site where you could charge faster and thus prefer over a nearby shopping mall 72 kW urban Supercharger or likewise a V2 Supercharger that is heavily used where you would almost certainly end up splitting power. The EA site might be faster and maybe even cheaper but the Superchargers would provide a backup.
ambudriver03
Member
Hypothesis : time based Tesla supercharging is significantly more expensive than electrify America, (and that's before the EA pass plus.)
I just drove 2400 miles across i-80, and used electrify America a half dozen times where it made sense to do so.
So. Crunching the numbers here, I charged at +100kw for 11 minutes, 50-99kw for 9 minutes.
Using EA Pass Plus, you pay a flat fee based on the highest charge rate (in this case 32c/minute, but with the pass plus 25% discount, so ultimately 24c/minute.)
For EA+ 20 minutes total, 24c/min + tax (7.25%) worked out to $5.15 (4.80 + 0.35 tax) for 36 kwh of energy ≈ 14.3c/kwh
This same charging session at the tesla super would cost:
Tier 3 - 11 mins @ 69c/min = 7.59
Tier 2 - 09 mins @ 41c/min = 3.69
Subtotal $11.28 + 7.25% local tax, $0.81
Grand total $12.09, 36kwh = 33.5c/kwh
TLDR - Tesla supercharging costs 2.25 times as much as EA for the same electricity. (Lincoln, NE)
Saved $7 at EA.
Electrify America charging station in Baker, CA is getting the 'next-generation' chargers.
masotime
Member
What's new with these? The most obvious difference I see is welcome though - longer cables - some of the older EA station stalls only allow vehicles with the charging ports in a particular position on the car to charge, which is kinda annoying.
I just learned about this extension cord - NEW! Tesla Extension Cord – EVSE Adapters - but I wonder if it'll work with the official CCS adapter. $550 is really expensive though, but I guess it's because of all the copper material...
masotime
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Answering my own question: Electrify America Presents "The Charging Station of the Future, Today"
- An all-new design that refines the look and reduces the footprint of the charger
- A recessed and brighter HMI (human-machine interface) screen to help reduce the glare from sunlight making it easier for customers to view the operational instructions and charging progress
- A single connector cable with an all-new cable management system to ease the effort to plug in the cable no matter where the charging port resides on a customer’s EV
- A reduced footprint of both the charger and power cabinets will allow installation of more equipment in space constrained, urban locations.
Tesla navigation pulls a Frank Costanza and stops short. Using Tesla Navigation to go to an Electrify America charge in a city around 180 miles caused it to add a Supercharger stop even tho I had enough charge to reach the Electrify America charger with around 30% SOC to spare. I then changed the navigation destination to the Walmart which hosts the EA chargers. In this case, navigation routed directly to the Walmart and showed the 30% SOC estimate at the destination.
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