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Elon Musk: Departing presidential councils

Discussion in 'Energy, Environment, and Policy' started by lunitiks, Jun 1, 2017.

  1. lunitiks

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    It's hard to negotiate with a potato.
     
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  3. Tam

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    It is a wise decision to avoid an association with someone whom is called by Michael Bloomberg as:

    "...I know a con when I see one,"
     
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  4. McRat

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    Yes, unless American Taxpayers are primarily responsible for the costs of implementation of the UN Climate Accord, and China is permitted to make up any numbers they wish, we are worthless.

    Without the UN to lead us, we as a nation are too stupid to set up PV, Wind, EV's, and other renewable energy sources.

    If the UN leads the way to Climate protection, life will be perfect, just like the UN has dealt with the Middle East conflict dating back to the 1960's. They have done a wonderful job. Perhaps the UN should control our housing building codes too! I've alway wanted to live in a mud hut answering to diplomats in mansions.
     
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    I'm not sure quitting is the best choice, but the PR of staying in would be unacceptable.

    "Keep your friends close, and the orange idiot closer"
     
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    Is a Tesla EV going to be a political billboard or the next step in automotive engineering?
     
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    Right, the UN should have solved the problems in the Middle East by now. Israel was carved out in 1948 and before that it was all rosy over there. I mean it's such an easy task and all. If they can't do that, then of course we don't want them dealing with climate change or I'll be living in a mud hut like McRat.

    Why you think these things are mutually exclusive makes no sense to me.
     
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    EM: Sad to see you go, but trust me, you will not be missed by Trump. Quitting is never the answer.
     
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    #9 BluestarE3, Jun 1, 2017
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    It was probably a forgone covfefe, but he had to at least try even though the odds were slim. He did. Now that it's apparent no advice will be heeded, it's time to leave. So he did.
     
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    ITT: A bunch of people who didn't read the deal or understand the geopolitical ramifications of allowing major trade competitors to set the standard for emissions (or face trade penalties).

    Makes for great headlines and additional "Trump hate", nothing more.

    Bring on the thumbs down(s)!
     
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    Why somebody would think engineering is political in nature apparently did not read the course syllabus when they decided on Poli Sci as their major.
     
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    If he waits until the US actually can leave the Paris Accord, that won't be until late 2020.

    Our orange overlord has 3 years to come to his senses and change his mind to stay in.
     
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    Because EM has made it clear that Tesla is not just about cars. It's about living off renewable energy as a life style. And how is it political when he is just pointing out that the orange peel's rejection of climate change is wrong and is just refusing to partake in his charade any longer? Am I being political when I say the orange peel has tiny hands and curtsied to the Saudi King?

    EDIT: I guess referring him by his skin color can be seen as political.
     
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    This is not a program run by the UN (like its vaccination and disaster relief and starvation relief programs that save countless lives) but rather a contract, a treaty, between countries. And every civilized country has signed on. This makes Trump look like a fool except to his unthinking base (but not the republicans like his secretary of state, energy secretary, mitt Romney, Lindsey graham, George Shultz and lots more. And a bunch of the Fortune 500 companies, and institutional investors etc etc.

    It's really just uneducated rednecks and the politicians that count on their support that are against it.

    Elon did well to stay in long enough to make this point at this time. Now he shouldn't waste his time any further trying to influence someone so unrelentingly stupid.
     
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    Would you want your front rear brake bias calculated by your CPA? Of course not.
    Would you want your electoral districts defined by your architect? Sure.
    Should scientists act like politicians? Tell people what they want to hear so the scientist keeps their job? Uh...
     
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    No, it's a UN program.
     
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    Racist statement.
     
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    Elon's Musk's knowledge of the environment is the same as my accountant's knowledge of brakes? Got it.

    You place far too much emphasis on a degree which is surprising since I thought you would have the view that the institutions of higher learning are all run by left-wing loonies.

    In any event, I deleted the post you referenced since it's no use discussing this issue with you, especially when it descends into discussions like this. The next thing you'll tell me is a "community organizer" isn't qualified to be President but the current one is. Been there, done that. Have a good day.
     
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    Covfefe
     
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    Ha, a great attempt at strawman. Classic.
    What you are implying is that if you aren't a CPA, you shouldn't do any accounting. That'd be a very interesting world and my job would be much easier.

    You got a very interesting take on defining race. Last time I checked, uneducated white is not a race. It's a Covfefe.
     
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