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Elon Musk says "constraints" on Autopilot are coming - New York Times Nov 3

calisnow

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Oct 11, 2014
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"After some users uploaded videos of cars behaving erratically on Autopilot, Mr. Musk said Tesla would also introduce “additional constraints” related to when the feature can be enabled in order to “minimize the possibility of people doing crazy things with it.” "

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/04/business/elon-musk-says-never-mind-the-hiccups-tesla-is-on-track.html?module=WatchingPortal&region=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=2&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2015%2F11%2F04%2Fbusiness%2Felon-musk-says-never-mind-the-hiccups-tesla-is-on-track.html&eventName=Watching-article-click
 
Aug 5, 2013
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Right. Damn it.
It's likely to be limited to divided roads, i would think. Using it in urban settings with possibility of an (unrecognized) child or cyclist being mowed down is dangerous. And if something like that happens, the whole project can get pushed back. So it's OK, probably wise, for them to do this and let the system prove its amazing learning capabilities. A little patience now is probably key for long-term success.
 

Max*

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Apr 8, 2015
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It's likely to be limited to divided roads, i would think. Using it in urban settings with possibility of an (unrecognized) child or cyclist being mowed down is dangerous. And if something like that happens, the whole project can get pushed back. So it's OK, probably wise, for them to do this and let the system prove its amazing learning capabilities. A little patience now is probably key for long-term success.

I hope you're wrong. I'm hoping it's just an occupancy sensor.
 

sillydriver

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Oct 19, 2014
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It's likely to be limited to divided roads, i would think. Using it in urban settings with possibility of an (unrecognized) child or cyclist being mowed down is dangerous. And if something like that happens, the whole project can get pushed back. So it's OK, probably wise, for them to do this and let the system prove its amazing learning capabilities. A little patience now is probably key for long-term success.

Sounds like RationalPessimism to me.
 

donv

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Jul 15, 2013
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While they're at it, they should make sure to include cruise control in that restriction. Especially on older cars without TACC!

It's likely to be limited to divided roads, i would think. Using it in urban settings with possibility of an (unrecognized) child or cyclist being mowed down is dangerous. And if something like that happens, the whole project can get pushed back. So it's OK, probably wise, for them to do this and let the system prove its amazing learning capabilities. A little patience now is probably key for long-term success.
 

rcarpen22

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Aug 1, 2014
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I'm not too worried about the hardware upgrade, but this issue kind of makes me want to cancel my order and get a CPO P85.
 

Tupelo

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Oct 2, 2013
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Depends on how strong your lobby is basically.

True, and plenty of people will also point to that pesky thing known as the US Constitution, that enumerates Rights as to guns that we don't have in any way, shape or form with respect to automobiles. The ownership and use of our cars (at least on the public roads) can be "infringed" pretty much as the policy makers want.
 

Vitold

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Aug 10, 2015
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Cars don't kill people, people do.

Exactly, that is why some people should not be able to drive, enable Autopilot or use guns, etc. The difficult part is who decides who can and who cannot and how it's implemented.

- - - Updated - - -

Cars don't people...

...yet.

But after the machine take over the planet, you may want to look both ways before crossing...

A message from the future: Programmers don't kill people, AI kills people.
 

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