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Elon Musk says "constraints" on Autopilot are coming - New York Times Nov 3

Discussion in 'Model S' started by calisnow, Nov 3, 2015.

  1. calisnow

    calisnow Active Member

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    "After some users uploaded videos of cars behaving erratically on Autopilot, Mr. Musk said Tesla would also introduce “additional constraints” related to when the feature can be enabled in order to “minimize the possibility of people doing crazy things with it.” "

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  2. mhpr262

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    Well, thanks a lot ... asshats.
     
  3. tstafford

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    Right. Damn it.
     
  4. RationalOptimist

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    It's likely to be limited to divided roads, i would think. Using it in urban settings with possibility of an (unrecognized) child or cyclist being mowed down is dangerous. And if something like that happens, the whole project can get pushed back. So it's OK, probably wise, for them to do this and let the system prove its amazing learning capabilities. A little patience now is probably key for long-term success.
     
  5. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

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    I hope you're wrong. I'm hoping it's just an occupancy sensor.
     
  6. lolachampcar

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    I too think butt in seat would be the first thing to change.
    Luckily, Elon is not the type to design to the lowest common denominator.
     
  7. sillydriver

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    Sounds like RationalPessimism to me.
     
  8. donv

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    While they're at it, they should make sure to include cruise control in that restriction. Especially on older cars without TACC!

     
  9. gizmoboy

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    And retrofit it to every other car with CC on the road as well...

    Damn but this lack of self-responsibility mindset is infuriating!
     
  10. DrManhattan

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    This is why we can't have nice things. You know who you are.
     
  11. gizmoboy

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    Don't mean to go all political, but it's amazing to me the limitations we place on cars compared to those we place on guns in this country, given their respective purposes.
     
  12. AmpedRealtor

    AmpedRealtor Well-Known Member

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    Good! It's about time.
     
  13. rcarpen22

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    I'm not too worried about the hardware upgrade, but this issue kind of makes me want to cancel my order and get a CPO P85.
     
  14. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    Depends on how strong your lobby is basically.
     
  15. Zybane

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    Small group of morons ruining it for the rest of us as usual.
     
  16. muleferg

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    Cars don't kill people, people do.
     
  17. Tupelo

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    True, and plenty of people will also point to that pesky thing known as the US Constitution, that enumerates Rights as to guns that we don't have in any way, shape or form with respect to automobiles. The ownership and use of our cars (at least on the public roads) can be "infringed" pretty much as the policy makers want.
     
  18. ozweepay

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    Cars don't people...

    ...yet.

    But after the machine take over the planet, you may want to look both ways before crossing...
     
  19. Vitold

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    Exactly, that is why some people should not be able to drive, enable Autopilot or use guns, etc. The difficult part is who decides who can and who cannot and how it's implemented.

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