Elon Musk Says Tesla Is 'Very Close' To Level 5 Self-Driving Technology

[diplomat33]

FFS, i have to do everything for you...

2019
http://web.archive.org/web/20190306042234/https://www.tesla.com/autopilot

vs
2016

http://web.archive.org/web/20161020062540/https://www.tesla.com/autopilot

And now, the side-by-side....
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Read the middle paragraph that describes FSD, that starts with "all you need to do is...". It's the same. So the section that describes FSD is the same. They updated the first and last paragraph but the middle paragraph on FSD is the same in both.

 

[mikes_fsd]

The middle paragraph is in the context of the 2 paragraphs that it is sandwiched between...

The entire block is what explains the Tesla FSD functionality.

 

[diplomat33]

The middle paragraph is in the context of the 2 paragraphs that it is sandwiched between...
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The entire block is what explains the Tesla FSD functionality.

Sure but the meaning is the same. The first paragraph used to talk about active cameras and they reworded it with simpler language to convey the same idea that the hardware is FSD capable. And the last paragraph is also just reworded legalese that basically says the same "pending validation and regulatory approval".

 

[whttiger25]

@Soda Popinski just to clarify.
That 2016 screenshot from Model X & S sales page is a black eye for Elon and Co even though it is conveniently cropped (see further below)
But for all these Model 3 and Y owners (and everyone else bitching that purchased their cars since ~2018) to whine about their FSD not being "delivered" is kinda silly.
Especially on this forum. You've (as in diplomat33) been following the company for years, from the announcement of FSD in October 2016 to first Model 3 deliveries was ~10 months (and more than that for volume deliveries).... before you could get a Model 3 they were already delayed by over 10 month for delivering on Autopilot replacement.

So, yes, I disagree that someone like @diplomat33 did not know what they were signing up for when the purchased EAP or FSD packages from Tesla or the fact that the timelines were already behind at the time of their purchase or the inconvenient bolded disclaimers were not there...

Oh and the full quote is... note that I did not highlight the bolded part, that was on the tesla website since October 2016:
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p.s. I will continue to disagree where appropriate for me

You’re right, I knew what I was getting into, which is why I declined the $7,000 option on my June LR+

 

[whttiger25]

talk about inconvenient facts and choosing to see only what you want to see


note how "regulatory approval" comes after "extensive software validation"

I think Tesla managed to cover themselves legally, clearly, but they definitely implied they were much further along with the tech than they were, regardless of regulatory approval. Just an implication, of course, but one that likely generated significant additional revenue. Hard to disagree with that I’d think but go ahead and hit the button if you like