There is no way to excuse that accusation based on just where the guy lives from Elon. Not if he were an ordinary guy and especially not if he played an instrumental role in the actual rescue. It seems to meet the standards of defamation even under strict US interpretation. Elon owes the guy a full apology at least and possibly monetary compesnation as well. On top of that, it's also insulting to the people and country of Thailand. Like Elon said just a few days ago : "I probably should say nothing more often". He let an excellent opportunity to say nothing slip away.
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cdub
Future Model 3 owner / Current original Leaf owner
I think he just woke up to reading stories about this guy insulting him and telling him to stick the submarine he was asked to build up his ass... Got super mad and called him a derogatory name on the internet.
cdub
Future Model 3 owner / Current original Leaf owner
Well the diver attacked Elon first but still... When my kids hurt reached that's their excuse too.
Not a good look.
Stoneymonster
Active Member
Well I guess that makes it ok then, if he’s mad. That’s a common defamation defense. /s
Elon needs to grow up and find himself a filter.
cdub
Future Model 3 owner / Current original Leaf owner
I agree with you... Just imagining it from his perspective.
"In a series of tweets responding to a journalist Musk said: 'Never saw this British expat guy (sus) who lives in Thailand at any point when we were in the caves. Only people in sight were the Thai navy/army guys, who were great. Thai navy seals escorted us in — total opposite of wanting us to leave.
'Water level was actually very low & still (not flowing) — you could literally have swum to Cave 5 with no gear, which is obv how the kids got in. If not true, then I challenge this dude to show final rescue video. Huge credit to pump & generator team. Unsung heroes here.
'You know what, don’t bother showing the video. We will make one of the mini-sub/pod going all the way to Cave 5 no problemo.' "
I see no defamation. There's a non-specific opinion, and a list of observations. If you want to call him out, trying tweeting and asking why he wrote sus.
If the guy _knew_ that rigidity of the design wouldn't work, then he could have tried to communicate the information directly. Just a length limit would do. One of the benefits about doing it in public is that people know what they're attempting. With direct contact (even via twitter, it couldn't have been missed), they would then know to focus on a flexible solution.
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Uh, you missed the pedophile tweet...
OK, sorry. I thought it had been taken as insinuation.
Yes, that's defamation. Sue hard.
ACA Man
Member
A few days ago he's talking to Bloomberg about cleaning up his act and focusing on the important thing which is running the company, less than a week later and this happens. The man is obviously brilliant, however, you're a grown ass man worth 20 billion dollars, where is the self control? He is hurting the company and his mission when he acts like this. He made a fool of himself today.
It probably does and he's probably right, that doesn't translate into good optics. Just like a Model S on fire. It's whatever you want to make of it. Unprobable outlier or the end of the company because all the product catches fire. Which one sounds better?
ACA Man
Member
Actually, the only cave environment it may work is to have enough room for it to be moved and/or operated.
Unfortunately, most caves are almost impossible for even a person to get through.
Krugerrand
Is Cat
Did I miss the part where you stated you had firsthand information and visited the Thai site and laid your hands on the minisub?
ACA Man
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RFernatt
Solar/EV Owner/Enthusiast
I ran across the following recently and it made me think of Elon:
From Vintage News: "The victorious general who drove throughout the streets of Rome in the chariot, decorated with gold and ivory, was followed by his troops and preceded by his most glamorous prisoners and spoils, taken in war. The triumph for the victorious general offered extraordinary opportunities for self-publicity and therefore popularity with the people of Rome. The victorious general was seen as, in some way, divine, representing the god Jupiter. ....
One of the most interesting parts of the triumph was that behind the victorious general in the chariot stood a slave, holding a golden crown over his head, and whispering to him throughout the procession, ‘Remember you are mortal’ in the ears of the victorious generals as they were paraded through the streets, reminding him that he is a man even when he is triumphing."
Where is Elon's whisperer reminding him that Iron Man or not, he is human and he is representing more than himself? Whether the people he decides to tangle with on social media are wrong or right, he needs to be the adult in the room. Which makes me think of another wise saying for the malicious shorts and trolls that he engages: "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it."
I don't even think Cheeto man ever called anyone a pedofile on Twitter. Jesus.
Elon's going Cheeto+ now:
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tpham07
Active Member
Shame that a company tries to design a product to help and their CEO gets attacked for it.
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