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I think he is more rational now and at ease than he was before
Although my views on politics and social issues mesh closely with Elon Musk's views, that doesn't mean that I am blind to his chaotic maneuvers. At this point, I have no clue whether he's just having fun doing outlandish things or he's really having mental issues.
 
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Although my views on politics and social issues mesh closely with Elon Musk's views, that doesn't mean that I am blind to his chaotic maneuvers. At this point, I have no clue whether he's just having fun doing outlandish things or he's really having mental issues.
I don't see the outlandish that you do.
For a billionaire that wants to go into space he seems pretty well grounded to me.
Sure , naming his kid xeiii or whatever is outlandish and weird but pushing for kindness, openness and moderation is not very outlandish to me.

The people that think Free speech is anti democratic on the other hand are IMO mentally ill
 
IMO, Elon should simply stay out of politics. As a businessman and pioneer, his contributions are unquestionable and I really like his cars. However, the more he reveals about his personal beliefs, the less respect I have for him as a person. I think he's hurting his image which may eventually have a negative affect on his business.

As for the recent allegations, he brought those on himself whether they turn out to be true or not. If he wants to play with the social media fire, he has to to expect to get burned. His past also has to be clean as a whistle which is often never the case. That fire is often fierce and unforgiving. Hopefully, no one else comes forward.

Someone brought up Bill Cosby. Yes, he's out, but the stain on his reputation will be there forever. You cannot think about Bill Cosby without thinking about the allegations. Musk seems to be heading down that road.
 
Is Musk expecting another fraud charge from the SEC? I don't see why he would otherwise be lashing out at democrats. Or is he lashing out because his timing on Twitter was incredibly unfortunate?

Changes in status are apparently more individually meaningful than absolute status. For example, ex U.S. presidents are claimed to suffer mentally from the loss of status. I think Musk as golden boy was probably his peak of mental health. I expect he really feels his relative decline.

It's notable that Nicola Tesla was a very odd man that constantly worried about his reputation and getting credit. Anyone who expected Musk to be universally successful doesn't read history.
 
Is Musk expecting another fraud charge from the SEC? I don't see why he would otherwise be lashing out at democrats. Or is he lashing out because his timing on Twitter was incredibly unfortunate?

Changes in status are apparently more individually meaningful than absolute status. For example, ex U.S. presidents are claimed to suffer mentally from the loss of status. I think Musk as golden boy was probably his peak of mental health. I expect he really feels his relative decline.

It's notable that Nicola Tesla was a very odd man that constantly worried about his reputation and getting credit. Anyone who expected Musk to be universally successful doesn't read history.

He’s lashing out because of these sexual allegations which aren’t really allegations because he already paid the “hush money” and the story comes from a friend of the friend.

He was asked for comment before the story came out and decided to get a head of the story by blaming (you know who). He’s following a certain persons playbook since it worked out well for that person. Except his customer base isn’t what Elon thinks it is.
 
On Elon's possible relationship with the flight attendant, may be the arrangement she got was stipulated in her contract. In his position though I think it's better to seek relationships outside of any of his companies or projects. In general, it's probably best to not mix business and relationships for multiple reasons. I hope it works out though. She probably just wants to be left alone and not the focus of media attention. Also I hope he will try to be more diplomatic politically since it will only help him.

Let Elon and Tesla refocus on making excellent EVs, launching FSD and the next generation Supercharger network!
It's unfortunate that in today's climate of social media rumors accepted as facts that people have lost the ability to differentiate between speculation and fact. People need answers, and when they don't know the answers, they make them up. I applaud your healthy skepticism. Cases like these are often fabricated, unproven, even known false, but are still settled rather than put up with the social media cancel culture that will believe whatever they want. I've seen a case close up where a woman totally fabricated a case of sexual harrassment as a tool to prevent getting into trouble over her own poor employment habits. Nobody really believed her, but the company didn't want the publicity. I know it was fabricated because I knew the man involved, and know for sure he had no interest in this woman, and was definitely not the sort to do anything like that if he was.
 
It's unfortunate that in today's climate of social media rumors accepted as facts that people have lost the ability to differentiate between speculation and fact. People need answers, and when they don't know the answers, they make them up. I applaud your healthy skepticism. Cases like these are often fabricated, unproven, even known false, but are still settled rather than put up with the social media cancel culture that will believe whatever they want. I've seen a case close up where a woman totally fabricated a case of sexual harrassment as a tool to prevent getting into trouble over her own poor employment habits. Nobody really believed her, but the company didn't want the publicity. I know it was fabricated because I knew the man involved, and know for sure he had no interest in this woman, and was definitely not the sort to do anything like that if he was.

I don't believe "Cancel Culture" was running rampant in 2016 when this happened and was settled. I might be wrong though.
 
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I don't believe "Cancel Culture" was running rampant in 2016 when this happened and was settled. I might be wrong though.
The term itself may not have been so widely used, but the concept of public shaming and calling out of people for their actions was around long before the term became popular. Basically, I'm saying that many companies want to settle a case quietly to avoid any fallout, and that has been around a long time. The brush fires were there, but the blazing forest fire didn't really get going until a few years after that date.
 
The people that think Free speech is anti democratic on the other hand are IMO mentally ill
Who exactly believes that free speech is anti-democratic?

Elon started out with using legal definitions of free speech. But it was clear from the start that even though his hostile takeover of Twitter was premeditated and carefully planned, his understanding of free speech was lacking. Twitter is available in a multitude of countries and there are almost as many legal definitions of what type of speech is permitted. Elon seems to believe that these inconsistencies can be handled with AI.

And then there was his initial attack on Twitter spam bots, no doubt which was just a precursor to more formal haggling on the actually value of a share of Twitter stock. He still hasn't said how he intends to eradicate the spam bot infestation.

Then he pontificated on online anonymity, first siding with people that think it's detrimental and then agreeing that in some cases, anonymity was a good thing. In other words, he hadn't a clue as to how to handle anonymity.

All I can say is, "A man's gotta know his limitations." Elon has done and may continue to do some miraculous things. But protecting free speech is more challenging than conducting rocket science. I don't believe that it is as simple as assembling a team of experts. And then proclaiming that the problem was solved two weeks later.
 
Is Musk expecting another fraud charge from the SEC? I don't see why he would otherwise be lashing out at democrats. Or is he lashing out because his timing on Twitter was incredibly unfortunate?

Changes in status are apparently more individually meaningful than absolute status. For example, ex U.S. presidents are claimed to suffer mentally from the loss of status. I think Musk as golden boy was probably his peak of mental health. I expect he really feels his relative decline.

It's notable that Nicola Tesla was a very odd man that constantly worried about his reputation and getting credit. Anyone who expected Musk to be universally successful doesn't read history.

The extreme left has latched onto the idea of a wealth tax on the richest people. They have been tried before and were a disaster and it would require a constitutional amendment to happen in the US, but a handful of people in Congress, most prominently Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have been beating that drum for a couple of years now. I think Elon is ticked off at them and is blaming the Democrats in general.

The proponents talk like billionaires are sitting around with 10 figure bank accounts and can just write a check for the tax. Elon is cash rich right now, but the vast majority of billionaires have the bulk of their wealth has never been realized. It's all funny money based on the value of their stock.

It's like my partner's aunt in her 90s. She and her husband bought a very modest ranch house in San Jose in the 1950s. I've been there, they raised 5 kids there and it must have been very cramped. It's been paid off for decades now. On paper she's a multimillionaire, but her only income is her social security check. Her kids kick in to keep her in her living there.

The house cost about $10,000 originally. She just hit the real estate lottery.

It's unfortunate that in today's climate of social media rumors accepted as facts that people have lost the ability to differentiate between speculation and fact. People need answers, and when they don't know the answers, they make them up. I applaud your healthy skepticism. Cases like these are often fabricated, unproven, even known false, but are still settled rather than put up with the social media cancel culture that will believe whatever they want. I've seen a case close up where a woman totally fabricated a case of sexual harrassment as a tool to prevent getting into trouble over her own poor employment habits. Nobody really believed her, but the company didn't want the publicity. I know it was fabricated because I knew the man involved, and know for sure he had no interest in this woman, and was definitely not the sort to do anything like that if he was.

I know two guys who were accused in separate incidents of workplace harassment by women who were known to be kind of nutty. In both cases their managers told them that they knew it was bogus, but they had to investigate and in both cases the managers dragged their feet because they didn't want to deal with the mess.

In the first case the guy left a job he loved because of the stress and the other the guy had other problems related to having mild Aspergers and severe hearing loss as an infant (he wears heavy duty hearing aids). The second guy is an odd duck in the world, but he's completely harmless. The harassment incident combined with some other things where they didn't accommodate his hearing problems led to a mental breakdown and he retired early after being classified as too disabled to work.
 
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The extreme left has latched onto the idea of a wealth tax on the richest people. They have been tried before and were a disaster and it would require a constitutional amendment to happen in the US, but a handful of people in Congress, most prominently Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have been beating that drum for a couple of years now. I think Elon is ticked off at them and is blaming the Democrats in general.

The proponents talk like billionaires are sitting around with 10 figure bank accounts and can just write a check for the tax. Elon is cash rich right now, but the vast majority of billionaires have the bulk of their wealth has never been realized. It's all funny money based on the value of their stock.

It's like my partner's aunt in her 90s. She and her husband bought a very modest ranch house in San Jose in the 1950s. I've been there, they raised 5 kids there and it must have been very cramped. It's been paid off for decades now. On paper she's a multimillionaire, but her only income is her social security check. Her kids kick in to keep her in her living there.

The house cost about $10,000 originally. She just hit the real estate lottery.



I know two guys who were accused in separate incidents of workplace harassment by women who were known to be kind of nutty. In both cases their managers told them that they knew it was bogus, but they had to investigate and in both cases the managers dragged their feet because they didn't want to deal with the mess.

In the first case the guy left a job he loved because of the stress and the other the guy had other problems related to having mild Aspergers and severe hearing loss as an infant (he wears heavy duty hearing aids). The second guy is an odd duck in the world, but he's completely harmless. The harassment incident combined with some other things where they didn't accommodate his hearing problems led to a mental breakdown and he retired early after being classified as too disabled to work.
It's a shame that we've come to this, but I don't know the answers. Makes me kind of glad I'm now retired. People have to be so careful these days about political correctness and perceptions - it sometimes seems the cures for the past problems are worse than the problems, although it may be I didn't know how bad they were. I always worked for pretty small, private companies, where we never needed to be so careful about being misunderstood because we could actually talk to each other without fear.
 
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The extreme left has latched onto the idea of a wealth tax on the richest people. They have been tried before and were a disaster and it would require a constitutional amendment to happen in the US, but a handful of people in Congress, most prominently Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have been beating that drum for a couple of years now. I think Elon is ticked off at them and is blaming the Democrats in general.

The proponents talk like billionaires are sitting around with 10 figure bank accounts and can just write a check for the tax. Elon is cash rich right now, but the vast majority of billionaires have the bulk of their wealth has never been realized. It's all funny money based on the value of their stock.

It's like my partner's aunt in her 90s. She and her husband bought a very modest ranch house in San Jose in the 1950s. I've been there, they raised 5 kids there and it must have been very cramped. It's been paid off for decades now. On paper she's a multimillionaire, but her only income is her social security check. Her kids kick in to keep her in her living there.

The house cost about $10,000 originally. She just hit the real estate lottery.



I know two guys who were accused in separate incidents of workplace harassment by women who were known to be kind of nutty. In both cases their managers told them that they knew it was bogus, but they had to investigate and in both cases the managers dragged their feet because they didn't want to deal with the mess.

In the first case the guy left a job he loved because of the stress and the other the guy had other problems related to having mild Aspergers and severe hearing loss as an infant (he wears heavy duty hearing aids). The second guy is an odd duck in the world, but he's completely harmless. The harassment incident combined with some other things where they didn't accommodate his hearing problems led to a mental breakdown and he retired early after being classified as too disabled to work.

So workplace harassment isn’t real? We should ignore it? The companies I work with would never settle / fire someone over a single incident unless it was witnessed by others and pretty bad. There is risk of wrongful termination on the other side.
 
So workplace harassment isn’t real? We should ignore it? The companies I work with would never settle / fire someone over a single incident unless it was witnessed by others and pretty bad. There is risk of wrongful termination on the other side.

In my reply before the one you quoted, I said that all claims of sexual harassment need to be taken seriously, but some are going to be false. Mental illness, personal agendas, and/or just plain lying are all traits that are equally distributed around the population.

Men are more likely to be sexually aggressive, both sexual assault and harassment are more often done by men than women, but women have been guilty of both. In domestic violence men more often cause physical harm than women because men tend to be physically stronger. Men are also slightly more often the perp in domestic violence, but my partner has been running an agency that gives court ordered domestic violence counseling for almost 20 years. The dirty secret in the DV world is that the split in perpetrators is really about 60/40 but a lot more men get arrested for it. Some states have laws requiring the man to be arrested, which leaves the cops in a conflict when they respond to a call on a lesbian couple and there is clear evidence of domestic violence.
 
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In China they believe they are a democracy. They also believe you shouldn't speak against the government once a decision has been made.
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The CCP denies that China is a dictatorship[citation needed] but rather is a "socialist democracy", ...
Except that Wikipedia page says that the Chinese Constitution states that the country is a "people's democratic dictatorship", whatever the heck that means. The Chinese Constitution also says that the country is a one party state, so that's not a democracy.
 
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In China they believe they are a democracy. They also believe you shouldn't speak against the government once a decision has been made.
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The CCP denies that China is a dictatorship[citation needed] but rather is a "socialist democracy", ...
In the USA, they believe they are a democracy.
Unfortunately not enough educators stress that we are a Representative Republic.
The word has lost all meaning in recent generations, it is the political version of "literally"
 
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