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Elon Musk
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But Musk bad for suggesting negotiation with Putin, meanwhile Biden administration is doing exactly the same thing:
U.S. scrambles to reassure Ukraine after Milley comments on negotiations
The top general's remarks about a “window” for talks angered Ukrainian officials, people familiar with the matter said.www.politico.com
It is illegal under US law for a private citizen to conduct foreign policy while it is one of the jobs of the US government to conduct foreign policy.
JRP3
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No it's not. Milley said victory unlikely in the short term and didn't say Ukraine should negotiate just that it was a possibility. He also didn't say anything about redoing elections, the future neutrality of Ukraine or water rights. However the main point you keep missing is Elon never should have injected himself into the discussion.
Krugerrand
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So conducting a poll, wanting peace, making suggestions, or having an opinion is considered conducting foreign policy? Got it. And I guess that’s why everyone lined up and sorted things out after his tweet?
Bet TSLA
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When you're the guy providing a critical weapon of war to the side you're making "suggestions" to, yeah that's crossing the line. When you are in a position of power like that, you STFU and stay far away from even the appearance of having an opinion. But you, you are irrelevant and can therefore express whatever opinion you like.
It's pretty much the same as when you are somebody's boss you have to be much more careful about what you say to them than if you have no professional relationship.
Leeclanual
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He also talked to Putin. He claims the only time they talked was before the war and it was about something else. But there are rumors they spoke just before he made that tweet. Talking to a world leader and then doing something that could affect public opinion like conveying that leader's ideas to social media is a form of conducting foreign policy. At minimum it's acting as an agent of a foreign power, which is not illegal, but doing so without registering as a foreign agent is.
If he was conveying something the Russians wanted out there, whether it came directly from Putin or from another Russian source, that's acting as their agent. It's possible that he did it on his own, but the bullet point list was very close to the list of demands Russia had at that time.
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Facts don’t care about rumors no matter how much it helps the narrative.
Need concrete proof or this is blatant and libelous misinformation.
lolachampcar
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First
First Principle
Do not loose your S*it
Elon needs to return to first principles (and also needs a lesson on responsible gun ownership).
First Principle
Do not loose your S*it
Elon needs to return to first principles (and also needs a lesson on responsible gun ownership).
clear, accurate and elegant summation of the entire Tesla situation. thanks!
That ship set sail after the pedo remarks years ago, this continues to affirm my decision of hating his antics and like many others looking to actively dump my car when what i want becomes available
It's a giant lead weight, and self inflicted lead weight
Yes to both. Though we need to note it’s a toy gun for gaming, the photo is clearly aimed at trolling gun control types and appealing to the opposite. The flintlock and the Washington crossing the Delaware print also are aimed at having the same effect on the same people.
It’s kind of pathetic. The faux patriotic vagueness reminds of that photo of his handgun the oh-so-macho Jeb Bush tweeted with simply the word “America” while campaigning.
The only real difference is Elon can mock anyone who’s offended by noting its a fake gun. Having it both ways.
The buddhist item was added to suggest some sort of above-it-all wisdom so it was somehow more thoughtful that just a couple semi-fake guns and a print from the founding of a country he wasn’t born in.
Dude, please go back to working on Tesla’s service issues, 4680s and getting the CT and model 2 going.
heavyD
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Not only that but what lunatic enjoys Caffeine Free Diet Coke enough to drink it in that quantity? Stuff is nasty.
Gauss Guzzler
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Yep. Dude’s all paranoid that covid tests might not be as they appear.
Wait until he finds out what Diet Coke is made of…
Wait until he finds out what Diet Coke is made of…
He’s right on the edge of becoming an anti-vaxer with the moves this week to allow posting of covid misinformation and disinformation. Not what I expected from someone who built a reputation around using hard data, facts and principles. It’s like he caught some virus from Kanye.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Did you forget his covid denialism early on? Covid seemed like the beginning of his disconnect from first principles and when I first started being concerned with his thought process. Things have only gotten worse since then.
Yet.... not a peep about the covid labor crackdown in China.
Brave Chinese protesting covid restrictions on work and life, risking theirs lives.
Meanwhile, the guy who was so quick to jump to the aid of the Canadian “trucker” protests and to criticize lowly state and county officials in California? For much milder restrictions….is suddenly quiet. Even with a huge megaphone now in his hand.
Cat’s got his tongue on dictators.
Easy to take potshots at Democratic governments though. Brave, too!
Meanwhile, the guy who was so quick to jump to the aid of the Canadian “trucker” protests and to criticize lowly state and county officials in California? For much milder restrictions….is suddenly quiet. Even with a huge megaphone now in his hand.
Cat’s got his tongue on dictators.
Easy to take potshots at Democratic governments though. Brave, too!
Daniel in SD
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This isn’t fair, he’s willing to give the CCP advice on what they should do to Taiwan.
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