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Elon Musk's ventilator giveaway

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by afadeev, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. afadeev

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    What does this have to do with the model 3?
     
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    at least Elon is doing something while you chose to complain
     
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    The cult of elon is strong in this one!

    Most likely this was an unintended mistake (not excusable and not unexpected considering how utterly disorganized Tesla is inside).

    I'm more afraid of the real ventilators which Tesla is supposed to be building. Panel gaps there may end up actually killing people...
     
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  5. ChairmanMeow

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    OP's sig has "M3" in it, there's your connection.
     
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    I’m inclined to believe the doctors that said thanks know more than folks looking at pictures on the internet.
     
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  7. Mrcarcrazy

    Mrcarcrazy Many Leather bound books.

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    Gotta say, as someone who plays with ventilators.
    More patients than just COVID patients need ventilators, and vents are often used under bipap settings. So even if this article is accurate this will free up vents for covid patients. Articles like this are absurd. They are full of 1/2 truths, with an agenda. I only skimmed it fwiw. So my reply may have half truths, but I’m not a “journalist” so I think that’s fine.


    It’s been a long day. This thread should be in some sort of off topic area.
     
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  8. M109Rider

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    The Cult of Complainers is very strong in this one.!
    He obviously thought they would work. Likely someone told him they would work.

    You could cut him slack.
     
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  10. Uncle Paul

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    Elon did a great thing here.
    Sad that someone would try to put a negative spin on it...for what ever reason.

    Elon contacted hospitals, told them exactly what he had, and they were super happy to get them. Make mild cases so much more comfortable, and buy them time until a intubation respirator becomes available.
     
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    #11 Tam, Apr 2, 2020
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    The communication should have been clearly indicating BiPAP as listed on the boxes and sales order rather than let the public found out the inconsistencies themselves.

    It's the concealment of the name BiPAP is a public relations problem.

    The Tesla "ventilator" is confusing because usually, BiPAP and CPAP machines are not considered as ventilators but in a crisis, they can be converted to be used as a ventilator alternative.

    They are ventilator alternatives.

    The article also says:

    "portable oxygen generators for chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and nasal cannulae hoses"

    Those 2 above are not usually be called "ventilators", but in a crisis, they can be converted and use as ventilator alternatives.

    Just like rocks, sticks and stones are bullet alternatives in ammunition shortage, ventilator alternatives in a crisis are not a substitute for a real ventilator.

    Anyhow, the donation is a very good thing indeed.
     
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    CPAP and similar machines are being used in the UK, but for only low-level breathing assist. Most definitely not ICU. They are useful, just not for the ICU.
     
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    So is this your deal. You’ve disagreed with every positive post about Elon or Tesla here, regardless of accuracy.

    Why do people lurk around forums when they hate the company and owner ?
    Inquiring minds want to know. :)
     
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  15. WarpedOne

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    >> Why do people lurk around forums when they hate the company and owner ?

    Some fixate on what they love, other fixate on what they hate.
     
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    The forum is just a platform for both lovers and haters.
     
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    The headline on this post is hilarious. “More harm than good.” Lol
     
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    #20 vickh, Apr 22, 2020
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    Fair enough. It's still a very low ROI, as a public health intervention, if 88% don't make it nationwide. We should focus on testing etc.
     

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