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Elon Puts His Foot In His Mouth Again

AlanSubie4Life

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thanks I'll see what is up*
here is what I was relating
Could the lockdown have side-effects no one has considered? | The Spectator

*Some basic background information and technical explanation on how they can or want to fight viruses
A somewhat painful presentation, but thanks for the link.

That article is pretty silly. Obviously, the virus could change, but it's unlikely to occur in a reasonable timeframe. And it could also get worse, rather than better.

Here's a more sophisticated response to that article, BTW:

Carl T. Bergstrom on Twitter

Carl T. Bergstrom on Twitter
 

Brando

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Good thing the President and Congress [Senate & House] are limited by our US Constitution. Otherwise we might be fighting wars for decades.

8 wars?
military bases in +150 countries
Orwell tried to explain in his book from 1948 titled: 1984 and so Did Smedley Butler you should just goodle search his name.

Next thing you know the "government" or somebody (who??) will tell us to "house arrest our selves".
They'll probably let you come out after half the people are kicked out of their apartments and half the homes are in foreclosure. With all this increased supply - go look for bargains.

Some perspective
Number of deaths for leading causes of death [USA]:

FastStats
 
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TEG

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Tesla is filing a lawsuit against Alameda County immediately. The unelected & ignorant “Interim Health Officer” of Alameda is acting contrary to the Governor, the President, our Constitutional freedoms & just plain common sense!
Frankly, this is the final straw. Tesla will now move its HQ and future programs to Texas/Nevada immediately. If we even retain Fremont manufacturing activity at all, it will be dependen on how Tesla is treated in the future. Tesla is the last carmaker left in CA.
 
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linux-works

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I feel sorry for the tesla employees who have to keep apologizing to the world on behalf of that child CEO of theirs.

its how I feel about being a US citizen, having to always apologize to the ROW for our poor president's behavior. the president of the US does not represent most of the sane americans and I can imagine the same is true of elon and his employees.

those that have options to leave the company, probably will. I expect a lot who are mobile who say 'fark it' and just leave the company. if I was working there, I'd be updating my resume now and floating it. the employment options are actually very good in the car business, in the bay area (I'm getting pings all the time by recruiters).

its a hot field and anyone with experience who can spell CAN BUS can find a job in this field.

its like elon is daring his best people to leave him.

wow.
 
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brur

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I feel sorry for the tesla employees who have to keep apologizing to the world on behalf of that child CEO of theirs.

its how I feel about being a US citizen, having to always apologize to the ROW for our poor president's behavior. the president of the US does not represent most of the sane americans and I can imagine the same is true of elon and his employees.

those that have options to leave the company, probably will. I expect a lot who are mobile who say 'fark it' and just leave the company. if I was working there, I'd be updating my resume now and floating it. the employment options are actually very good in the car business, in the bay area (I'm getting pings all the time by recruiters).

its a hot field and anyone with experience who can spell CAN BUS can find a job in this field.

its like elon is daring his best people to leave him.

wow.

It is interesting to watch the different takes on reality.
 

Randy Spencer

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I just read the comments on Electrek for this story and it seems most people are on Elon's side. It was painful to read. They want him out of California now, despite the fact that the vast bulk of Teslas are made here with the support of the Nevada factory. They want him to pick up all the robots and sheet metal stamps and casting machines and move them to Texas, even though there isn't a place there to move them to, and the Gigafactory is 7x further away. They want him to sell his house and move everyone out of California for its treachery. They believe people are itching to move away from all our fancy beaches and mountains and culture. Move away from the aerospace industry and Silicon Valley. Even suggesting everyone should buy a shotgun and move to Texas. Wow. Culture-war much?

Not sure where this sudden support for Elon is coming from, considering you cannot buy a Tesla in Texas. Preppers really seem to love the bulletproof CyberTruck, perhaps that's it. Somewhere on the internet, a new connection is being made, that is getting Elon to say all these things about fascists. Cannot wait to read the report when it comes out, too bad it will be too late for Tesla by then.

We were so close to going back to normal, now this.
 

Dave EV

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Not sure where this sudden support for Elon is coming from, considering you cannot buy a Tesla in Texas.
There's a lot of people who dislike California for whatever reason (damn liberals). I'm sure a lot of them are simply for it for that reason alone. Still weird that you would want to move to a state where you can't directly sell your cars. That said, it seems pretty likely that Texas is a prime target for the next factory in the USA, regardless of what they do in California, given that Texas was in the running when they decided to go with Giga Nevada.

We were so close to going back to normal, now this.
Honestly, as long as Elon remains at the helm, this is the way it's going to be, with regular Twitter outbursts. This is the third (or is it the fourth or fifth or sixth if you count all the COVID-19 tweets?) outburst that has garnered significant negative attention - already had the cave rescue, $420 and now the latest in a series of bad and completely wrong COVID-19 tweets over the past few months.

The last series of tweets fall under the category of "stop acting like a 5 year old" and instead use some tact and learn to bite your tongue and let it go.

The post I made 9 days ago still stands. Except now you can add "I'M LEAVING CALIFORNIA, BUT FIRST I'M SUING" and a whole bunch of other cringy tweets, too (tussling with Robert Reich, a CA Congresswoman and more arguing that the death rate is inflated).

Dude - just drop it. You're hurting your case.
 

brur

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I see the level of discussion has moved into a realm I'm not willing to enter.

My take is this, Elon realizes (in his mind) two things. 1, His pet project is being mismanaged by some tertiary level bureaucrat.
2a, Realistically there is no testing on a scale and accuracy coming in the near term (year). 2b every day that passes Tesla as a car company is being punished. 2c, The effectiveness of isolating the young and fit is doing real harm to the economy (back to 2b).
. postscript: Waiting a year for a vaccine?
 

linux-works

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old thinking:

fark_nUf5vOWaSEOFH9DOY6iBxZcRdcY.jpg


new thinking:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/06/kawasaki-disease-coronavirus/

Children are falling ill with perplexing inflammatory syndrome thought to be linked to covid-19

we still don't have a good handle on how to deal with this.

I don't see a reason to rush 'back to work' unless we understand things better and can protect people properly.

EVERYONE is taking a 'bath' financially. all boats are not rising in the water (well, some profiteers are, but that's for another thread).

we're all losing ground. it affects us all. the billionaires don't have any more reason to yell than the regular working person; and yet, most working people don't want to rush this before we're ready.

its not just 'old people'. this is world wide and affects everyone. it needs to be taken DEATHLY serious.

work and economy can wait. we're all in this together and we all feel the strain. but there is a time and place for everything.

I will not sacrifice myself to the wall street gods. wont. we have to work this out and there's a lot more work left.
 

Twiglett

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old thinking:

fark_nUf5vOWaSEOFH9DOY6iBxZcRdcY.jpg


new thinking:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/06/kawasaki-disease-coronavirus/

Children are falling ill with perplexing inflammatory syndrome thought to be linked to covid-19

we still don't have a good handle on how to deal with this.

I don't see a reason to rush 'back to work' unless we understand things better and can protect people properly.

EVERYONE is taking a 'bath' financially. all boats are not rising in the water (well, some profiteers are, but that's for another thread).

we're all losing ground. it affects us all. the billionaires don't have any more reason to yell than the regular working person; and yet, most working people don't want to rush this before we're ready.

its not just 'old people'. this is world wide and affects everyone. it needs to be taken DEATHLY serious.

work and economy can wait. we're all in this together and we all feel the strain. but there is a time and place for everything.

I will not sacrifice myself to the wall street gods. wont. we have to work this out and there's a lot more work left.
Sorry but I don't agree.
I'm in "that age group" likely more affected, but we can't shelter in place until this passes by, its here to stay. There is no quick cure, no quick fix.
We have to adjust and move on, not cower in our houses in fear afraid of our friends and family.
I have no intention of dying over it, so I'm taking personal responsibility for my own health. If someone isn't wearing a mask, I wave at them from a distance. I'm wearing my mask because when I sneeze or cough I want to stop spraying a cloud of spray into the world around me. I won't know if I'm infected or not for at least a week or two after I've been walking around - but its MY responsibility to protect others.
Its all about taking personal responsibility for my health and the others around me.
Welcome to the new normal.
 

linux-works

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for my money, I think its too early to tell if we are going to get a quicker cure or its going to be a long, drawn out thing.

I'm willing to give this more time and I know we are learning more each week. the longer we can delay putting people at risk, the better.

yes, we all take a financial bath. no one wanted this or asked for this, but 'all things in time' and I'm in no hurry to jump to conclusions when we just don't have to, right this moment.

we should be yelling at our governments who are putting us in this no-win situation. they should not be forcing us to choose between making ends meet and tasking health risks. its them that the anger should be directed at, not the ones who want to continue the SIP order and give us all more time to better find a SET of solutions to this crisis.

that BS $1200 check (or whatever it ends up being) is a joke and people should be up in pitchforks-and-fires toward their leaders for trying to buy them off at such an insulting low non-livable amount.

(I bet there's still lotsa money for war and MIL. don't EVER suggest we touch that pile. no sir. holy cow and all)
 

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