Elon says AWD and Perf orders start at end of next week!

[preilly44]

 

[ccutrer]

So one lap your car handles like a RWD and the next it handles like a FWD?

More likely each motor will be going at half power. Consistent handling, less heat at both.

 

[McRat]

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The fastest cars do not run 20's. That's jewelry.

 

[Nate977p]

What does the email say?

 

[ground_gainer]

awesome, thanks for sharing. Guess that means i can stop reloading and just wait for the email =p

 

[Gen3Joe]

The fastest cars do not run 20's. That's jewelry.

Amen

 

[dhanson865]

Large rear discs are bad engineering

I don't know that the discs are larger but I do know the first build Model 3 has clearance for 17" on the front and 18" on the rear. I don't know if that is caliper size, disc size, or both.

 

[seattlite2004]

The fastest cars do not run 20's. That's jewelry.

Z06's have 20's in back....they are pretty fast. GT3s also come with 21/20s.....and they seem to be pretty fast also. The 720s also comes with 20's I believe.

 

[dhanson865]

So one lap your car handles like a RWD and the next it handles like a FWD?

The discussion was how it handled WOT equivalent on a straightaway. It wouldn't handle differently in the curves and on a straightaway will you notice some micro balance routine? Both motors would be engaged no matter what, it would just vary the percentages as needed to balance power requests vs heat vs steering inputs.

 

[Gear]

Z06's have 20's in back....they are pretty fast. GT3s also come with 21/20s.....and they seem to be pretty fast also. The 720s also comes with 20's I believe.

Yeah, I think a lot of people like to use racing series as examples, but they tend to have regulations that restrict wheel size. Formula 1 restricts to 13" wheels. World Endurance Championship restricts most classes to no larger than 18", but they can run smaller than that. I think they all run the maximum allowed.

 

[e-FTW]

What if the motors have more power draw than the battery can do at any one time. Maybe then they can alternate/rest motors during long sessions (one straight away might favor the front motor, the next might favor the rear motor) giving them time to cool off but keeping performance relatively unchanged.

That would still count as limited performance, and the flaming pitchforks would come out!
Very interested to see what will happen on a track. We did see that they tested it at Thunderhill last month, which is a good sign.

 

[McRat]

Z06's have 20's in back....they are pretty fast. GT3s also come with 21/20s.....and they seem to be pretty fast also. The 720s also comes with 20's I believe.

Fashion. It's also a ghetto version of extended mobility.

F1 cars run 13" rims.

 

[Gear]

Fashion. It's also a ghetto version of extended mobility.

F1 cars run 13" rims.

Because the rules don't allow anything else.

 

[dhanson865]

Because the rules don't allow anything else.

They only allow them because they are better and everyone has to use the same equipment.

Formula 1 set to keep 13-inch wheels rather than going to 18-inch

Formula 1 appears poised to retain 13-inch wheels despite recent suggestions it could switch to 18.

Current tyre supplier Pirelli recently showcased the larger spec on a GP2 car in Monaco, with former driver and current television commentator Martin Brundle at the wheel.

Rival Michelin already uses 18-inch in Formula E, and has made clear it will only submit a tender for F1's latest tyre-supply contract from 2017 if it switches to that format.

But the suggestion now from within F1 is it is unlikely to change due to the issues running the 18-inch wheel would raise.

"The subject of bigger wheels has been raised many times over the last five or eight years," said Mercedes executive technical director Paddy Lowe.

"The broad consensus is that going to bigger wheels is not a good direction. From a grip point of view it's not positive."

"Like for like, such tyres will have a lower grip and the weight will go up considerably, so it's not an attractive direction performance-wise."

"I think generally we would intend to stick with the 13-inch wheels."

 

[McRat]

Because the rules don't allow anything else.

18" wheels will clear the brakes on a Z/28. So that's what everybody runs instead of the factory 19s.

Now...

If you order the High Performance Camaro (650HP ZL1) you get 20" wheels.
If you order the Track Package Camaro (650HP ZL1 1LE) you get 19" wheels.

The 1LE needs 19" to clear the brakes. The ZL1 can use 20s for style.

People want cars that look fast. Currently massive truck sized wheels look fast. Things change.

 

[dhanson865]

The discussion was how it handled WOT equivalent on a straightaway. It wouldn't handle differently in the curves and on a straightaway will you notice some micro balance routine? Both motors would be engaged no matter what, it would just vary the percentages as needed to balance power requests vs heat vs steering inputs.

@Adeon what do you make of this?

 

[Electroman]

Something is odd about the range:

3LR - 310 miles range
3LRD - 310 miles range
3LRDP - 310 miles range

How could this be ?

 

[Daniel in SD]

Those wheels do look good! But I agree 20” wheels with that tire diameter are going to be slower than smaller wheels. Are they any wider than the LR wheels?

 

[Daniel in SD]

Something is odd about the range:

3LR - 310 miles range
3LRD - 310 miles range
3LRDP - 310 miles range

How could this be ?

Not a good sign the 3LRDP. It should have wide sticky tires. On the other hand the actual epa test was 334? for the LR so maybe the P is less but they just rated it the same for marketing reasons.

 

[MXWing]

Not a good sign the 3LRDP. It should have wide sticky tires. On the other hand the actual epa test was 334? for the LR so maybe the P is less but they just rated it the same for marketing reasons.

Remember the original LR was sandbagged to not make it kill the S too badly.

The P with 20 inch wheels might be closer to 310 than 334.

The X with bigger wheels loses signal significant range. 3 should be no different.