Elon Tweeting about Thailand and Reputation

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Strangely enough I’ll defend Elon on this one. The diver’s crude comments toward Elon warrant an equal response.

A calls B: cynical publicity seeker
B calls A: dangerous, violent criminal

Not equal at all.

This has me seriously questioning an intended future purchase from Tesla. I'm not kidding.

You don't make accusations about criminal behavior without be able to point to evidence for it. That kind of thing ruins people's lives.

 

[defc0n]

A calls B: cynical publicity seeker
B calls A: dangerous, violent criminal

Not equal at all.

This has me seriously questioning an intended future purchase from Tesla. I'm not kidding.

You don't make accusations about criminal behavior without be able to point to evidence for it. That kind of thing ruins people's lives.

You need to revisit the comments that A made to B.

 

[Seesaw]

This has the potential to be bigger than the Roseanne incident

Wouldn’t be suprised if the Tesla board of directors issues a statement to distance themselves

 

[Electroman]

So......predictions for Monday trading?

I am sure you are over the moon with that tweet from Elon?

I guess aS long as the stock tumbles and the company goes kaput, it is all fair game.

 

[Starno]

I'm wondering if the stock may react to Musk's tweet. He's way out of line calling that guy a pedo, and behaving the way he is on twitter.

Doubt it, twitter has very little effect in reality. Obviously, if it's just a tweet (if it's not attached to an actual fact in reality).

 

[mickificki]

Right because so many conservatives have an abundance of both

Nah. I understand he was mad but this was uncalled for.

Very immature.

I hope Elon trolls the ever living sh*t out of this f’ing British troll.

 

[mickificki]

A calls B: cynical publicity seeker
B calls A: dangerous, violent criminal

Not equal at all.

This has me seriously questioning an intended future purchase from Tesla. I'm not kidding.

You don't make accusations about criminal behavior without be able to point to evidence for it. That kind of thing ruins people's lives.

Then don’t buy one snowflake.

 

[Reality]

I am sure you are over the moon with that tweet from Elon?

I guess aS long as the stock tumbles and the company goes kaput, it is all fair game.

This has nothing to do with my thesis, except that it supports that Elon is not as godlike as he is made out to be

I am happy people are beginning to realize that, yes

 

[Boomer19]

A calls B: cynical publicity seeker
B calls A: dangerous, violent criminal

Not equal at all.

This has me seriously questioning an intended future purchase from Tesla. I'm not kidding.

You don't make accusations about criminal behavior without be able to point to evidence for it. That kind of thing ruins people's lives.

em also said something after that about betting a signed dollar it’s true. maybe they did background search into the guy and found out he was actually an offender.
again, maybe. speculation. if

whatever. the whole thing is ridiculous. tweets all deleted now anyway. he’s too easy a target and needs to disengage from trolls. this doesn’t impact how i feel about my purchase in any way. nor does the contributions thing (that’s old news anyway), the twittersphere just making it out to be something it’s not. it’s noise. twitter is noise. this country is a noisy mess. it’s a god damn joke that fb and twitter are of value. they make the national enquirer look like something kronkite-worthy

 

[mongo]

Since this has it's own thread...
Tor-pedo vs sub-marine
(I know, doesn't work in context, but I never got to see the tweet elon was replying to since the author deleted it)

 

[Sancho]

This entire Thai/Musk incident is another superlative example of the truism “no good deed goes unpunished.”

Rather than accepting the implications of this truism, Musk got frustrated and lashed out. Always a mistake. Let’s hope he learns from the experience.

 

[AlMc]

"If you don't like volatility don't buy our stock" If you want boring Tesla isn't the right company for you, and The Boring Co. isn't public.

I have accepted the stock volatility. It is the CEO's volatility that is concerning me more right now.

 

[commasign]

Re: Elon calling the diver a pedophile

There’s really only two ways this will play out:

1) it turns out to be true (I.e. dirt comes out in a few days supporting the claim)
2) it turns out to be false in which case at some point in the near future Elon will have to apologize publicly and this will be another lesson for him about using Twitter and he’ll almost certainly stop or decrease these types of engagements over Twitter

The fact that he deleted the the tweets suggests that things are falling in line towards #2 (his trusted friends and advisors reaching out to him, etc., behind the scenes) but at the same time he’s not an idiot and I would not be surprised if #1 actually plays out. Stranger things have happened in Elon/Tesla world.

 

[defc0n]

Re: Elon calling the diver a pedophile

There’s really only two ways this will play out:

1) it turns out to be true (I.e. dirt comes out in a few days supporting the claim)
2) it turns out to be false in which case at some point in the near future Elon will have to apologize publicly and this will be another lesson for him about using Twitter and he’ll almost certainly stop or decrease these types of engagements over Twitter

The fact that he deleted the the tweets suggests that things are falling in line towards #2 (his trusted friends and advisors reaching out to him, etc., behind the scenes) but at the same time he’s not an idiot and I would not be surprised if #1 actually plays out. Stranger things have happened in Elon/Tesla world.

Uh there is probably a 0% chance Elon knows if the guy is a pedo. The fact it’s a white British expat living in Thailand makes it a fun assumption to make. One that I would probably do if they told me to stick one of my contributions that I made to try and help, and was asked to help, up my ass.

 

[SteveG3]

I agree re Elon responding. That said, “pedo” too far to be constructive.. but I have empathy re Elon reacting that way, given the circumstances including that guy’s harsh and vastly misleading remarks being covered by CNN etc

Constructive responses from Elon/Tesla/is to this very apparent, years long, growingly emboldened and widespread campaign,

1) Elon do long form interviews with people who have more than a sound bite interview style... Joe Rogan unofficially agreed to. I’d say add Oprah. No joke. She knows first hand what media campaigns with smearing are like, is curious, and probably the most efficient person on the planet in terms of getting large swaths of the population to open up/realize the conventional narratives re Elon/Tesla are rubbish thrown at them and not be simply dismissed as a conspiracy theorist for making this point (plus, she’s a Tesla owner and her best bud Gayle King genuinely seemed to appreciate Elon).

2) Get other very hard to dismiss voices to speak on behalf of Elon/Tesla’s contribution AND name the massive misinformation work being tossed toward Elon/Tesla and their prodicts... ie, the Sierra Club, other environmental groups, Oprah, Gates, Page, perhaps Ralph Nader...

3) we can be more active where casual Tesla observers are being misinformed (twitter, online article comment sections...) and call out the false narratives with the same advertising campaign style efficiency being used to mislead re Tesla/Elon.

ie, lets be efficient and heard too, I’m thinking stuff like,

#ThankU4Polluting

to wake people up/focus attention on how deep and broadly they have been misinformed. people are not fond of being told falsehoods. if the ball gets rolling with people discussing the campaign that’s been going on involving Tesla for years, I think it will snowball considerably.

The conversation could be “wow, do ever have a pay to play media” rather than “wow is Tesla a mess, selling dangerous cars, led by a PT Barnum Trumpian jerk.”

 

[GreenT]

Can someone tell me why Musk's comment is not libel?

And a PR nightmare. I agree 100% with the poster who compared this with Rosanne.

It makes me embarrassed to be associated with the brand.

 

[commasign]

Uh there is probably a 0% chance Elon knows if the guy is a pedo. The fact it’s a white British expat living in Thailand makes it a fun assumption to make. One that I would probably do if they told me to stick one of my contributions that I made to try and help, and was asked to help, up my ass.

You're probably right but remember that Elon knows more about things than people give him credit for. There was 0% chance he knew anything about building rockets, building cars, digging tunnels, building underwater escape pods, etc., Yet here we are. He could very well have done some investigation about the diver before tweeting that. On the other hand, this might be him reaching his breaking point. Either way, this needs to come to a conclusion and the world moves on.

 

[KevinR]

I would love to be pleasantly surprised to the contrary but I am anticipating a slow but steady upward trend now.

Of course, the forecast is for continuing FUD with scattered twitter storms...

 

[STARR X]

This has nothing to do with my thesis, except that it supports that Elon is not as godlike as he is made out to be

I am happy people are beginning to realize that, yes

I don’t agree with the tweet, but what I do like about Elon is the fact that he does have faults just like you and me.

 

[Singer3000]

This is the the sort of news event that gets cut through to normal people, causing untold damage to Elon’s reputation. And because he has quite deliberately blurred the line between Tesla and himself, this damages the company, everyone that works there and all it’s financial investors.

The media coverage of the Thai rescue received blanket coverage globally. In the Uk there has even been talk about awarding the divers the George Cross, the highest civilian award for bravery. Publicly calling one of these people a peadophile and then doubling down on that? Superficially it’s too easy to portray as him getting angry because someone else got to be the hero.

Been an investor a long time, this is the first time I find myself hesitating about whether Tesla really is the right home for such a significant percentage of my retirement savings. Without its brand and it’s customers’ and employees’ zeal for the mission, in the long term it’s just another car company.