powertoold
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It's not off topic, as it gives us insight into bladerskb's thought process. He posts a lot in these topics, so it's good to know if his points have rational validity.
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It's not off topic, as it gives us insight into bladerskb's thought process. He posts a lot in these topics, so it's good to know if his points have rational validity.
powertoold
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I have no idea what you're arguing. It seems like you're just arguing for no-points sake. The FSD beta *was* released to a few consumers / customers as Elon said in that tweet. The rest is history, as Tesla's consumers became its marketing machine. This is called viral marketing. It's cheaper than spending billions on ads.
Of course they count as marketing, why wouldn’t they?
Now trusting is a big word that is a little iffy.
Trusting a companies marketing? Uh, no.
Prove it doesn't require any "coding" to enable it. I've yet to see any announcement / article / press release it's been deployed. All we have are bimmerpost members talking about how to "code" the software to enable it.
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I have already proved it.
You refuse to accept facts.
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We'll see. When things are changing so fast nowadays, plans don't mean as much :p Like BMW has been planning to release traffic light recognition since last year and still hasn't deployed it yet. Although they have a new blog article saying "soon": New BMW Urban Cruise Control recognizes...
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powertoold
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Your idea of proof is one UK guy on a forum saying it's released? lol! I bet you didn't even read his entire post.
No one in that thread has a BMW MY21 in germany that was produced after 11/2020 and BMW doesn't add new features in future software updates (for example assisted driving view, etc).
If you don't have a MY21 that was produced after 11/2020 then you are out of luck even though they all have the same hardware. This is why someone with a Q4 2018 can code TLA into their car. But anyone in germany with a MY21 car produced after 11/2020 has it. Without coding needed.
Alot of BMW features are only available in very few locale. TLA isn't unique, features likw:
Hands free driving under 37mph,
Speed Assist
Highway Exit assistant
Lane Change Assist
Red light warning
Stop sign warning
assisted driving view
etc...
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Already covered this in my previous post. Its NOT in 7/20.
Also its not in 03/2021.
You only have it if you have a MY21 built after 11/2020.
Like i said before.
It will never show up in a release note as most features are only available in select locales.
If BMW had 15 driving assistant features and you had a US model. You would only get about 5 of them.
Driver owners manual from germany MY21 cars built after 11/20 has TLA details on it.
powertoold
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You spent months. Months digging yourself into this hole, gaslighting, posting nonsense about this bmw feature. It's still not "released" without coding.
No one should take you seriously unless you take the L for this.
Unlike you i don't live on one forum and have my head in a bubble.
I read and participate in dozens of forums from different brand. That's why I'm so up to date on everything going on in the auto industry while you live in your tesla bubble.
powertoold
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Yup, it seems you spend a lot of time twisting your logic.
Why so mad because BMW released red light, stop sign and wrong way warning way to actual customers way before Tesla?
and also ACTUALLY released Red light braking a few months after tesla and it doesn't brake for green lights lol
powertoold
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Sorry, but it's not released because one guy in a forum said so. We don't even know his definition of "released." His post actually implies it still requires coding because the feature is only 90% reliable at best.
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- Function is fully supported - EU countries including DE and UK. The system will read 'most' lights and either auto accepts or requires manual SET for acknowledgement. Stops accurately and safely at the light, even if changing from Green to Amber, and will prompt the user to restart on Green. This system works 90% of the time but will still fail at times and is not totally reliable.
Logic? All i do is read. Something that it seems like you can't do because you love for Tesla and hate for anyone else completely clouds your judgement.
But ofcourse, Nio is lying and xpeng is lying and bmw is lying right? its all media propaganda.
powertoold
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I say we don't take you seriously until you find proof that MY21 BMWs in Germany come with usable TLA as of 5/17/21 without any coding whatsoever.
Sorry, but it's not released because one guy in a forum said so. We don't even know his definition of "released." His post actually implies it still requires coding because the feature is only 90% reliable at best.
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- Function is fully supported - EU countries including DE and UK. The system will read 'most' lights and either auto accepts or requires manual SET for acknowledgement. Stops accurately and safely at the light, even if changing from Green to Amber, and will prompt the user to restart on Green. This system works 90% of the time but will still fail at times and is not totally reliable.
'officially released' versus 'supported'.
Something can be supported but not officially released.
This is 100% clear for any reasonable educated human with reading comprehension. But for you its clouded due to your hate for anyone but Tesla.
and what is Tesla's reliability rate in EU countries including DE and UK? That's right, 0%.
There are hundreds of TLA threads. All you have to do to find out information if you were truly interested is to participate in the forum.
But you won't because you are not interested in info and education. You just want to hype up Tesla and spread hate.
You probably see those people in those forums as beneath you.
powertoold
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Yup, I won't be responding to you until you post that proof or take the L for your months of gaslighting and deception
one guy? You mean the equivalent of verygreen for BMW cars? if you bothered reading or using any logic or reasoning maybe just maybe.
BMW released warning red light warning and stop sign warning in 2019 BEFORE tesla.
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