Up 20% on the news that Elon has almost 10% share.
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Elon & Twitter
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Here's Elon's SEC filings:
Statement of acquisition of beneficial ownership by individuals | SEC.gov
and from Elon's 13G filing:
(a) Amount beneficially owned: 73,486,938 shares consisting of shares of Common Stock held by the Elon Musk Revocable Trust dated July 22, 2003 for which Elon Musk is the sole Trustee.
(b) Percent of class: 9.2% (based on 800,641,166 shares of Common Stock outstanding as of February 10, 2022 as reported in the Issuer’s Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2021).
It's gonna be real hard to muzzle Elon's tweets now, wot SEC? But Elon could...
Overall, it's not T.I.T.S. but I like it anyway.
Cheers!
Statement of acquisition of beneficial ownership by individuals | SEC.gov
and from Elon's 13G filing:
| Item 4. | Ownership. |
(a) Amount beneficially owned: 73,486,938 shares consisting of shares of Common Stock held by the Elon Musk Revocable Trust dated July 22, 2003 for which Elon Musk is the sole Trustee.
(b) Percent of class: 9.2% (based on 800,641,166 shares of Common Stock outstanding as of February 10, 2022 as reported in the Issuer’s Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2021).
It's gonna be real hard to muzzle Elon's tweets now, wot SEC? But Elon could...
Overall, it's not T.I.T.S. but I like it anyway.
Cheers!
Looks like CNBC is doing some dirty digging: Elon Musk thumbs his nose at the SEC again with Twitter stake
dhanson865
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I'm assuming from that date in the SEC filing he started buying weeks ago and stopped buying a week or so ago, filing with the SEC after some grace period was used.
If he bought all on Mar 14th it would be around $33 a share, and $2.425 Billion
If he bought all on Mar 14th it would be around $33 a share, and $2.425 Billion
If he bought at an average of $35 a share it's $2.572 Billion.
If he bought at an average of $36 a share it's $2.645 Billion.
If he bought at an average of $36 a share it's $2.645 Billion.
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Twitter can run their company however they want. If they want to ban certain people, that's up to them. They do not have a duty to let anyone say anything they want. I am not supportive of Elon trying to open the floodgates to let that happen.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
The Market liked this buy. Here's this mornings TWTR REALTIME from NASDAQ.com
$TWTR finished up 27.1% for the day. "Free speech costs real money..."
How much more fun will this be than donating that $3B to a PAC or a some such?
Cheers!
$TWTR finished up 27.1% for the day. "Free speech costs real money..."
How much more fun will this be than donating that $3B to a PAC or a some such?
Cheers!
Actually, if they want to continue to benefit from the protection of Section 230, than they might *actually* have a duty to let anyone say anything they want.
They don't get to suppress some speech while promoting other speech and then claim immunity as a neutral publisher of "third-party content". If twitter is choosing which words go public, it's no longer "third-party".
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Rob Maurer's hot-take on Elon's twitter investment, and what it could mean going forward: (8 min segment, queued to start at 3:18 min)
Elon Musk Just Acquired Massive Twitter Stake - What You Should Know | Tesla Daily
Cheers!
Elon Musk Just Acquired Massive Twitter Stake - What You Should Know | Tesla Daily
Cheers!
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Paging @DaveT
Let's not neglect this tweet from Elon on Dec 10, 2021:
jus' sayin'...
Cheers!
Let's not neglect this tweet from Elon on Dec 10, 2021:
Elon Musk on Twitter: "thinking of quitting my jobs & becoming an influencer full-time wdyt" / Twitter:
jus' sayin'...
Cheers!
I'm not a lawyer, but i don't think Section 230 requires a web site to be a neutral publisher. They can remove whatever they want.
Section 230(c)(2) further provides "Good Samaritan" protection from civil liability for operators of interactive computer services in the good faith removal or moderation of third-party material they deem "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected."
From the main thread, a copy/paste... I haven't read the above, sorry, will get back later, busy day. Could be a repeat view, gotta go. I was just responding to this.
I'm not worried about Elon's twitter influence or any neg impact to TSLA. Instead I welcome his new board seat.
Given Elon's views on the media and past efforts to clean up false reporting, (Pravda website aimed at telling the truth by shaming the reporters of false stories, like keeping score on the publishing process), I really don't see him unbanning individuals until his solution is in place (whatever that is). Let the system expel or demote automatically, maybe with AI. I think that's the ideal, but just my opinion.
Here's Elon expressing his interest back in 2018:
This might not be the end goal, but I see him potentially clarifying the 1st Amendment in some way. I know, crazy idea, but it's Elon we're talking about. Society online is toxic now IMHO. We don't know his next 10 moves, but it's super exciting to see him engage on this. And when you're a favorite star on the platform, how on earth could that not help Tesla and TSLA?
Elon offers Twitter the long view with mission clarification beyond # of users. Like most corporations, Twitter is currently in the gasoline mentality $$$ mode worried about climate change but continuing to serve shareholders. IMO, it needs to think about efficiency of communication, even bullying where Elon was personally affected in his early years like myself. I speak from the heart when I say this is an extremely powerful motivator. He could possibly expand functionality and alter Facebook trajectory in the process. Wild speculation since it's anyone's guess, but do check back in a few years.
So how is this on topic? We still have a few more years of FUD to contain in the BEV industry. The goals between Twitter and Tesla could easily intersect during this transition. However, maybe this topic could spin off the main for now.
I'm not worried about Elon's twitter influence or any neg impact to TSLA. Instead I welcome his new board seat.
Given Elon's views on the media and past efforts to clean up false reporting, (Pravda website aimed at telling the truth by shaming the reporters of false stories, like keeping score on the publishing process), I really don't see him unbanning individuals until his solution is in place (whatever that is). Let the system expel or demote automatically, maybe with AI. I think that's the ideal, but just my opinion.
Here's Elon expressing his interest back in 2018:
This might not be the end goal, but I see him potentially clarifying the 1st Amendment in some way. I know, crazy idea, but it's Elon we're talking about. Society online is toxic now IMHO. We don't know his next 10 moves, but it's super exciting to see him engage on this. And when you're a favorite star on the platform, how on earth could that not help Tesla and TSLA?
Elon offers Twitter the long view with mission clarification beyond # of users. Like most corporations, Twitter is currently in the gasoline mentality $$$ mode worried about climate change but continuing to serve shareholders. IMO, it needs to think about efficiency of communication, even bullying where Elon was personally affected in his early years like myself. I speak from the heart when I say this is an extremely powerful motivator. He could possibly expand functionality and alter Facebook trajectory in the process. Wild speculation since it's anyone's guess, but do check back in a few years.
So how is this on topic? We still have a few more years of FUD to contain in the BEV industry. The goals between Twitter and Tesla could easily intersect during this transition. However, maybe this topic could spin off the main for now.
No, there is a difference between "active" and "activist". It's pretty clear he was invited onto the board.
I think you're adressing @Knightshade more than me. My point was, even *if* being on the board requires a 13D vs 13G, until that happened, the 13G was fine.
dhanson865
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for those without the desire to go to twitter (and maybe have the imbedded content blocked somehow), or in case the tweets get deleted even...
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JRP3
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I can't say I'm happy about Elon taking time away from Tesla to get more involved with social media. It's not that important an issue compared to sustainable energy and transportation.
Meh... this could boil down to a few short conversations a month. Seems unlikely that it'll have a negative impact on Tesla's progress.
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