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  1. Bid goes through in October?
  2. Gain control of the SF employees and plant a few loyal servant coders
  3. 2023 - Promises - bots, human authentication
  4. 2024 - start moving to Austin
  5. 2024 - Dogecoin integration
  6. 2025 - Tesla systems integration
  7. 2025 - Apple Glasses integration
  8. 2026 - Starlink integration
  9. 2027 - Twitter "Youtube" (includes Tesla Music that Elon wants)
  10. 2035 - Mars integration
  11. 2035 - Neuralink integration
 
Musk said the other day ..."free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy, and Twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated." So any "snipness" will be tolerated, unlike this site.
 
What I _do_ care about is that Elon will be even more defocused now, and Tesla is already suffering from a few systemic issues. Like service that sucks, build quality that’s on par with cars 1/3 the price, FSD that takes forever with the vision-only corner he has painted Tesla into, and nickeling dimeing customers and raising the prices.
On the other hand with Elon "focused" on Tesla those issues remain so his absence may have little to no effect. In truth I'm more comfortable with Elon being less focused on Tesla and letting the company stand on it's own. I like the way other people in the company are more prominent in recent presentations and earnings calls as well, it's a continued pivot away from the notion that Tesla can't exist without Elon and reduces the risk to the company.
 
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Musk said the other day ..."free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy, and Twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated." So any "snipness" will be tolerated, unlike this site.
Plenty of snipiness is already tolerated on Twitter. Some people like to pretend Twitter is heavily censored but it's not, you can say all sorts of completely crazy and insane stuff on there all day long.
 
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Plenty of snipiness is already tolerated on Twitter. Some people like to pretend Twitter is heavily censored but it's not, you can say all sorts of completely crazy and insane stuff on there all day long.
Which is why the best use of Twitter is to selectively follow specific verified users and only post if necessary. reddit is a much better option for specific topics, because like TMC, each subreddit's mods control that subreddit and keep things from getting too out of hand.

BTW, TMC's quarantining approach is a nice middle ground between letting users run amok and just deleting offensive posts.
 
It will be nice to just have a place that allows both sides of the narrative. Funny even the censorship exists here. People allowed to make disparaging posts (ie #188) about Trump (are very left politically) and they remain while I make a post that skews to the right and it was deleted and I didn't even mention a name.
Absolutely. Left leaners can call names, throw fits, rant, and be as political as they like. If you disagree you get moved to snippiness.
 
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Buying Twitter, Elon Musk Will Face Reality of His Free-Speech Talk
Buying Twitter, Elon Musk Will Face Reality of His Free-Speech Talk

A decade ago, Twitter executives, including the chief executive, Dick Costolo, declared that the social media site was the “free-speech wing of the free-speech party.” The stance meant Twitter would defend people’s ability to post whatever they wished and be heard by the world.

Since then, Twitter has been dragged into morasses over disinformation peddlers, governments’ abuse of social media to incite ethnic violence and threats by elected officials to imprison employees over tweets they didn’t like. Like Facebook, YouTube and other internet companies, Twitter was forced to morph from hard-liner on free expression to speech nanny. Today, Twitter has pages upon pages of rules prohibiting content such as material that promotes child sexual exploitation, coordinated government propaganda, offers of counterfeit goods and tweets “wishing for someone to fall victim to a serious accident.”


The past 10 years have seen repeated confrontations between the high-minded principles of Silicon Valley’s founding generation of social media companies and the messy reality of a world in which “free speech” means different things to different people. And now Elon Musk, who on Monday struck a deal to buy Twitter for roughly $44 billion, wades directly into that fraught history.
 
Buying Twitter, Elon Musk Will Face Reality of His Free-Speech Talk
Buying Twitter, Elon Musk Will Face Reality of His Free-Speech Talk

A decade ago, Twitter executives, including the chief executive, Dick Costolo, declared that the social media site was the “free-speech wing of the free-speech party.” The stance meant Twitter would defend people’s ability to post whatever they wished and be heard by the world.


Since then, Twitter has been dragged into morasses over disinformation peddlers, governments’ abuse of social media to incite ethnic violence and threats by elected officials to imprison employees over tweets they didn’t like. Like Facebook, YouTube and other internet companies, Twitter was forced to morph from hard-liner on free expression to speech nanny. Today, Twitter has pages upon pages of rules prohibiting content such as material that promotes child sexual exploitation, coordinated government propaganda, offers of counterfeit goods and tweets “wishing for someone to fall victim to a serious accident.”


The past 10 years have seen repeated confrontations between the high-minded principles of Silicon Valley’s founding generation of social media companies and the messy reality of a world in which “free speech” means different things to different people. And now Elon Musk, who on Monday struck a deal to buy Twitter for roughly $44 billion, wades directly into that fraught history.
And they broke their own guidelines by banning duly elected politicians, and respected journalists who were at odds with their political ideology. Hunter Biden's laptop and the WuHan Lab leak are just two of many obvious examples. In doing this they "coordinated government propaganda" and promoted what they claimed they were working against. It is this type of hypocrisy that likely prompted Elon Musk to believe he could do better. It will be interesting to see their algorithms publicly revealed.
 
So who is going to really moderate all that stuff? Humans. You know, like the ones at Twitter right now?
That's a real good question. I question how has Twitter been moderated to date? I just found it odd that the Taliban, Putin are still on the platform but yet they banned a sitting United States president.


This is who are in control of what you consume and what you think. Elon owning Twitter, even though Twitter is absolutely tiny and meaningless compared to these vast media conglomerates, is still a threat because Twitter has an unusually large media influence despite it's tiny user base (~200 million vs. Facebook's 3 billion).
Now the question, will there be more or less twitter users considering the company will be private?
 
Which is why the best use of Twitter is to selectively follow specific verified users and only post if necessary. reddit is a much better option for specific topics, because like TMC, each subreddit's mods control that subreddit and keep things from getting too out of hand.

BTW, TMC's quarantining approach is a nice middle ground between letting users run amok and just deleting offensive posts.

Reddit is just an intense echo chamber of bias. Reddit Politics is a giant liberal haven that hijacked a neutral term. Reddit electric vehicles is a giant anti-Tesla hater circlejerk. Same with Reddit self-driving.
 
So will Twitter ban the use by non-US governments? Are free speech laws specific for each country?

Can someone give me an example of a hardcore free speech platform not becoming a cesspool of hate, misogyny and outright disinformation?
 
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