Not clear to me, Elon's comment on 20% is area under the curve, not width. So the extremes are less impactful than the median.
FWIW:
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FWIW:
The Republican Party has lurched towards populism and illiberalism
Its rhetoric now resembles that of Europe’s most extreme parties
The polarization in today’s Congress has roots that go back decades
On average, Democrats and Republicans are farther apart ideologically today than at any time in the past 50 years.
www.pewresearch.org
BitJam
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Calling for the overthrow of the US government is illegal in the US. The penalty is a fine and imprisonment for no more than 20 years.
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
This page was the first hit when I did a search for "calling for the overthrow of the US government" which I copied from the original post.
Knightshade
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Multiple replies, with sources, showing Elons claim is backward, examples-
BitJam
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Oh the irony! It appears Musk fell for a false right-wing narrative. Perhaps if his social media had moderated lies better, he would not have fallen for this one. This is not a good look (except for people who believe this lie. For them it's great!)
What is the linkage function between conservative vs liberal spectrum (Elon's post) and GOP vs DP (congressional makeup)?The Republican Party has lurched towards populism and illiberalism
Its rhetoric now resembles that of Europe’s most extreme partieswww.economist.com
The polarization in today’s Congress has roots that go back decades
On average, Democrats and Republicans are farther apart ideologically today than at any time in the past 50 years.
Did I miss something in the Tweet chain?
BitJam
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It's more polite and accurate to say misinformed. Which is tragicomic (sad and hilarious).
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I deleted my post. While I have great respect for what he has achieved, I have no faith in his ability to be serious and continue to improve things at Tesla. No faith.
With this tweet, he proves that even the most intelligent minds can be corrupted. Peter Thiel must have done a number on him.
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EVNow
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I think Elon has been seeing more the ultra-right tweets than the center or left. Economically Elon is on the right - he is a kind of right libertarian in terms of ideology. But - Elon doesn't really understand ideology well. The whole right-left single axis thing is a very poor representation of real world.
Reagan would not be able to win the Republican primary now - but among Dems, we see moderates like Hillary and Biden regularly win the primary. Climate Change was accepted by the 2008 GOP candidate as real - now almost the entire party rejects Climate Change is an issue.
Anyway, there is unambiguous data to show that the right has moved more than the left.
EVNow
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Those who want to understand political spectrum outside the uniaxis narrative used by media should look at this.
Specifically - look at PoliticalCompass. Rate yourself as to where you fall and compare to politicians as well as famous historical figures.
Specifically - look at PoliticalCompass. Rate yourself as to where you fall and compare to politicians as well as famous historical figures.
I believe society used to have both. That's the problem. It's not a Twitter specific problem though, it's a societal problem. The ability to have a civilized disagreement gets harder to do the more we stop acting like humans and continue acting like animals.
That’s not correct. Read it again.
I can call for the overthrow of government all I want, I just can’t call to overthrow it by force or violence…big distinction.
This is a perfect example of misinformation that gets posted and then promoted but wouldn’t get censored on twitter nor should it. The poster and promoters should be called out for their lack of reading comprehension for all to see.
Speaking of reading comprehension, maybe dictionaries have a liberal bias, too?
o·ver·throw
verb
/ˌōvərˈTHrō/
remove forcibly from power.
"military coups which had attempted to overthrow the King"
throw (a ball) further or harder than intended.
"he grips the ball too tight and overthrows it"
EVNow
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Here is my hypothesis .... starting with Covid when Elon went to the dark side, he has fallen into the sphere of influence of alt-right. He just uncritically repeats their tweets. This is a classic example.
Zero data, zero thinking ... when is he changing is Climate Change stance ?
column in today's WSJ (for those who have access) suggesting some ideas.
www.wsj.com
Why Elon Musk’s Twitter Won’t Be What Fans or Critics Expect
In shaping the social network’s future, Elon Musk may look to its past, to a Twitter-funded project that has yet to bear fruit and to proposals from others including former CEO Jack Dorsey.
www.wsj.com
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