JRP3
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That's been quite obvious.
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Elon & Twitter
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Literally like every human being yes. So you literally believe everything the guy says to be true or are you just deciding that this quote works for you in this instance so it must be true? Can't have it both ways because it you take literally everything he says as fact then let's just start going down the list of all the stuff he has said that hasn't happened. Same thing here. Sure he said it isn't for the money or I guess based on your copy/paste. Having said that are you really that gullible, naive or just have no clue that a person is going to spend $44B as a charity and not treat it as a business.
jabloomf1230
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The issue with Twitter is not limited to fake users and spam bots. There are also accounts that haven't been used in a long time. These social media companies rarely purge inactive users because it hurts their advertising revenue.
I'm assuming that's why they delineated "active, daily monetizable users" in the disclosure. That removes those inactive users from the calculus.
_Redshift_
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Elon Musk says Twitter offer not a way to ‘make money’
Elon Musk said his offer to buy Twitter is not a way to “make money,” but rather part of an effort to try to change the platform to be an “inclusive arena for free speech.” “I think it’…thehill.com
Thought he wasn't doing it to make money, but to preserve free speech? Odd.
Why would you take Elon at his word?
All it means is that his motive for investing is not to make himself money.Elon Musk says Twitter offer not a way to ‘make money’
Elon Musk said his offer to buy Twitter is not a way to “make money,” but rather part of an effort to try to change the platform to be an “inclusive arena for free speech.” “I think it’…
Thought he wasn't doing it to make money, but to preserve free speech? Odd.
Doesn't mean that he's OK with losing money, or that he'd try to run it as a non-profit, given that there are other investors.
adiggs
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Elon treats all of his businesses like businesses, if nothing else in the sense that they need to be able to pay their own way. In the early days that means a path to paying their own way, but I'm convinced that he sees the necessity for real change to also be economic.
That doesn't mean that he chooses his businesses on the basis of their ability to make him money.
I take him at his word that his mission with Twitter is for it to be a platform for an inclusive arena for free speech. He see's free speech as being essential to a well functioning society. That doesn't mean he's looking for it to be government funded or a charity - he is also expecting it to be a money making business.
As he is somebody that has twice, successfully, built businesses in industries where the old joke "how do you become a millionaire? start off as a billionaire and start a <car | rocket> company" applies, I trust that he'll also make Twitter adequately economic (not necessarily as profitable as Facebook / Google / ..) to satisfy that part of the equation.
The other industry I've heard this joke for is airlines - maybe he'll start one of those as well when the current plane makers are insufficiently aggressive about electrifying air transport, or the companies that operate those airplanes don't adopt electric planes as quickly as needed. Or a ship building firm when the ship builders don't electrify as quickly as he thinks they should.
EVNow
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Somewhere, Parag Agrawal is sweating bullets
At least we know what happened to those 2 execs who abruptly left a few days ago. Parag fired them when he found out they were completely making up their daily user counts
At least we know what happened to those 2 execs who abruptly left a few days ago. Parag fired them when he found out they were completely making up their daily user counts
I looked at Elon's followers. Way more than 5% - I think. Many only follow Elon, have never tweeted, account locked and were setup in May this year. Interestingly, my account shares the first two of these qualities...
Assuming these are bots, what is their purpose if they are not spamming?
I then looked for spamming on an Elon tweet and couldn't see any (quick look only). Twitter already seemed to have done a good job suppressing the Doge spammers which was such a problem a year ago.
I looked up my own followers. The last 4 are definitely bots, in total about 15% bots. My profiling: Hot girl profile picture + follows random guy with few followers + has text about crypto and link/phone number in bio = likely bot.
Opinion: The breathtaking cluelessness of Elon Musk | CNN
Elon Musk's statements and actions about Twitter, free speech and former President Donald Trump speak to an axiom that Trump himself exemplified: In today's America, one person with no conscience and access to the right pressure points can do almost anything they want, writes Holly Thomas.www.cnn.com
Great read! Here is on of many highlights:
"Elon Musk seems to have decided he has a better grasp on the vagaries of social media and content moderation than everyone who has run a platform before him. His statements on how he'll run Twitter constantly betray a blindness to how complicated that will actually be, and a Trumpian assurance that he must know best."
Same as f ex the robotaxis are coming before new year, or was it new year two years ago? Oh, and the roboguy in a couple of years.
He thinks his audience is not smart enough to see through it. And thats because his cult applauds everything, even if its just a fine fart.
Risky to only be around "yes" people. They make you think you are smarter than you really are.
This seems like a sound statistical analysis lmao
bkp_duke
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Close friend of mine was a senior VP at Tesla for several years. For fact, Elon NEVER likes yes-men. He HATES laziness, and doesn't respect people that won't challenge him.
More than anything, it looks like Twitter employees have had a pretty easy ride for years, and are terrified that they might be forced into a harder work ethic. Appears to be a recurrent problem in silicon valley:
Tech Companies Coddled Their Employees. Now They're Firing Them
Two weeks or so before Elon Musk prevailed in his attempt to strike a deal to buy Twitter, the Silicon Valley venture capitalist and entrepreneur Keith Rabois tweeted a story from Musk’s startup days. Once, at Space Exploration Technologies Corp., Musk had noticed a group of interns milling...
www.bloomberg.com
I think that's just a jab testing Twitter's confidence in 5%.
Oh yeah, so if I pick 100 at random I'll get around 5 bots?
The number is 5% of daily, active monetizable users, per Twitter. So random sampling of accounts that don’t post would not count.
We can call it whatever we want but peeling back the onion this is the sole reason EVERYONE that is against this deal is losing their ever loving minds. Just a WAG and based on the posts here 90% of the Tesla owners and fans are left with many far left and this just makes them crazy. Any person from any company they can't do without that has even one sliver of like, fondness or at minimum doesn't think Trump as an alien is going crazy, bonkers and trying their hardest to put some spin on this thing that it is such a bad idea.
If you all think that firmly about the issues with Elon, his values and his willingness to allow Trump back on Twitter then put your money where your mouth is. Sell your Tesla and cancel your Twitter account if you are that upset. No use belly aching over it. Life is too short. I have with many of my favorite things. When companies decide to pick a side then they run that chance. I donated every last Nike item and haven't spent one dime on that POS company the day they wanted to support who I feel is a worthless human in Kapernick. There are a couple other companies as well.
JRP3
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