ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Likely.Seems to me it broke the "wishing harm on someone" policy unless the whoever reviewed the tweet didn't fully understand the tweet.
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Likely.Seems to me it broke the "wishing harm on someone" policy unless the whoever reviewed the tweet didn't fully understand the tweet.
Some one needs to refer this to Elon, it shouldn't be allowed.I’ve no idea who these people are. But should that tweet be allowed ?
I vote 1. or 2. this thread does jump several sharks per day.Speaking - absolutely uninvited by the rest of the Mod Squad - for all Moderators, I understand why it appears none desires to wade & shovel through this hot mess of a thread.
If there is a single one of you who is not ashamed of yourself, I need to have a long talk with your mother and all of your grand and great-grandmothers.
BUT - here’s the deal. Should I…..
1. Shut this thread?
2. Shut this thread immediately without awaiting responses from all of you as to whether I should shut this thread?
3. Shut this thread and ban each and every one who posted more than twice on this thread?
Decisions, decisions, decisions…..
Sure is splendid this isn’t Twitter.
The tweet is all sorts of can of worms Elon shouldn't open. Those are sensitive hills one shouldn't choose to die on. Probably realized it hence he deleted it real quick.
Some one needs to refer this to Elon, it shouldn't be allowed.
As I stated above a simple phrase based filter will not work here.
My suggestion would be to add a report button, and reported Tweets should be hidden until a mod can look at it.
If you are interested in getting musk removed as CEO we have a new comm
LMAO. User counts mean *sugar* when you are public company. It needs revenue and profit.
Things aren't looking good in that area.
Ar least the more tesla stock must sells to fund Twitter the less control he will have of Tesla
Just ban the guy that created the thread. Problem solved.Speaking - absolutely uninvited by the rest of the Mod Squad - for all Moderators, I understand why it appears none desires to wade & shovel through this hot mess of a thread.
If there is a single one of you who is not ashamed of yourself, I need to have a long talk with your mother and all of your grand and great-grandmothers.
BUT - here’s the deal. Should I…..
1. Shut this thread?
2. Shut this thread immediately without awaiting responses from all of you as to whether I should shut this thread?
3. Shut this thread and ban each and every one who posted more than twice on this thread?
Decisions, decisions, decisions…..
Sure is splendid this isn’t Twitter.
I've got no idea how trustworthy that post is, but it sure makes a lot of sense now, in hindsight. It does really make one wonder...oops all spiders
I was an intern at SpaceX years ago, back it when it was a much smaller company — after Elon got hair plugs, but before his cult of personality was in full swing. I have some insight to offer here.…www.tumblr.com
I was an intern at SpaceX years ago, back it when it was a much smaller company — after Elon got hair plugs, but before his cult of personality was in full swing. I have some insight to offer here.
Back when I was at SpaceX, Elon was basically a child king. He was an important figurehead who provided the company with the money, power, and PR, but he didn’t have the knowledge or (frankly) maturity to handle day-to-day decision making and everyone knew that. He was surrounded by people whose job was, essentially, to manipulate him into making good decisions.
Managing Elon was a huge part of the company culture. Even I, as a lowly intern, would hear people talking about it openly in meetings. People knew how to present ideas in a way that would resonate with him, they knew how to creatively reinterpret (or ignore) his many insane demands, and they even knew how to “stage manage” parts of the physical office space so that it would appeal to Elon.
The funniest example of “stage management” I can remember is this dude on the IT security team. He had a script running in a terminal on one of his monitors that would output random garbage, Matrix-style, so that it always looked like he was doing Important Computer Things to anyone who walked by his desk. Second funniest was all the people I saw playing WoW at their desks after ~5pm, who did it in the office just to give the appearance that they were working late.
People were willing to do that at SpaceX because Elon was giving them the money (and hype) to get into outer space, a mission people cared deeply about. The company also grew with and around Elon. There were layers of management between individual employees and Elon, and those managers were experienced managers of Elon. Again, I cannot stress enough how much of the company culture was oriented around managing this one guy.
Twitter has neither of those things going for it. There is no company culture or internal structure around the problem of managing Elon Musk, and I think for the first time we’re seeing what happens when people actually take that man seriously and at face value. Worse, they’re doing this little experiment after this man has had decades of success at companies that dedicate significant resources to protecting themselves from him, and he’s too narcissistic to realize it.
This post is long so I’ll leave you with my favorite Elon story. One day at work, I got an all hands email telling me that it was Elon’s birthday and there was going to be a mandatory surprise party for him in the cafeteria. Presumably Elon also got this email, but whatever. We all marched down into the cafeteria, dimmed the lights, and waited. Elon was led out by his secretary (who he hadn’t fired yet) and made a big show of being fake surprised and touched that we were there. Then they wheeled out the cake.
OK, so, I want you to imagine the biggest penis cake you’ve ever seen. Like the king of novelty sex cakes. Only it’s frosted white, and the balls have been frosted to look like fire and smoke. This was Elon’s birthday “rocket” cake.
For as long as I live, I will never forget the look on everyone’s face — in that dark room of mostly-male engineers — when he made a wish and cut into the tip.
IMO any kind of tweet which suggests that physical violence, directly or indirectly, is a desirable, sensible or warranted, should not be allowed.I’ve no idea who these people are. But should that tweet be allowed ?
Honestly, this is one of the most entertaining threads on TMC, and it does keep a lot of the nonsense contained to a single thread.Speaking - absolutely uninvited by the rest of the Mod Squad - for all Moderators, I understand why it appears none desires to wade & shovel through this hot mess of a thread.
If there is a single one of you who is not ashamed of yourself, I need to have a long talk with your mother and all of your grand and great-grandmothers.
BUT - here’s the deal. Should I…..
1. Shut this thread?
2. Shut this thread immediately without awaiting responses from all of you as to whether I should shut this thread?
3. Shut this thread and ban each and every one who posted more than twice on this thread?
Decisions, decisions, decisions…..
Sure is splendid this isn’t Twitter.
Twitter, exactly, you took the words right out of my mouth.Speaking - absolutely uninvited by the rest of the Mod Squad - for all Moderators, I understand why it appears none desires to wade & shovel through this hot mess of a thread.
If there is a single one of you who is not ashamed of yourself, I need to have a long talk with your mother and all of your grand and great-grandmothers.
BUT - here’s the deal. Should I…..
1. Shut this thread?
2. Shut this thread immediately without awaiting responses from all of you as to whether I should shut this thread?
3. Shut this thread and ban each and every one who posted more than twice on this thread?
Decisions, decisions, decisions…..
Sure is splendid this isn’t Twitter.
A chance? You think?There is always a chance that a cleverly worded threat or piece of hate speech could evade simple word based filters.
This, and thinking you can discuss honestly and rationally on Twitter with 240 characters is totally nuts.It's off limits because people are not capable of discussing it honestly or rationally. It's fueled by too much tribalism and emotions.
FFS.It's not out of the blue. Those shirts were made because of the Ferguson incident. He was explaining how social warrior woke mobs went to the streets based on a lie. His point is truth no longer matters once you go woke..coming from an earlier tweet he had.
Being non-hysterical doesn't make one a cultist, but nice try.Is the implication here that there is nothing that Elon could do or say to damage the brand?
I’m not holding my breath for advertisers to come back soon.
Musk Tweets Defense of Cop Who Killed Unarmed Black Man in Ferguson
The billionaire deleted his original tweet early Wednesday but replaced it with a DOJ report.gizmodo.com
You can't deny that it's because people having preconceived notion about this country's history and knowing systemic racism exist that caused people to assume too quickly of what happened or even making up stories of what happened to fit that narrative. This is one of the incident where the police acted in self defense because according to the report Brown was dangerous but the people was upset anyways due to all the historical stuff you mentioned.FFS.
This is not the point.
This view of the what "truth" is is the point: it's way too simplicistic, and it's dangerous. This is Musk's view of the world in true and false.
What if the single Michael Brown incident had some false information? The fact remains he was unarmed and killed.
But let's assume he was violent and dangerous. Does this change the fact that there are hundreds or thousands of act of violence from the police to black people? Does it change the systemic racism, racial profiling?
Does it change that the entire history of United states of America is based on genocide and slavery, and we exited that era only recently? With many legacy problems and ripples? You don't erase that view of the world easily. Black people didn't go to schools a few decades ago. Musk lived his youth in apartheid South Africa, he knows.
You can't cancel history, because it affects the present. This are facts too, if you are interested in facts.
What I'm discussing here is not politics, or the fact that BLM is all good, and police is all bad:
I want to discuss epistemology.
When Musk is outside is deterministic realm of engineering, he's very often stupid (like we all are) but he still thinks that he's a master (some of us are more humble than that). And he has great power and tremendous reach.
That Ferguson tweet is stupid not because it says a single, false thing, but because it's a product of a false mental framework.
The problem is that 'hate speech' has no objective standard and is open to interpretation but for some more obvious examples, such as racial epithets.A chance? You think?
Recognizing hate speech is an extremely difficult problem. Elon's claims about the reduction in hate speech are probably nonsense. He can claim with possible correctness that they've reduced the hate speech they recognize. But that means very little without knowing a lot more about how they recognize it.
To be clear, people responsible for hate speech are capable of learning how to evade quick detection. But perhaps there are AI techniques that can be deployed. We won't know much for quite a while. And I doubt Elon will report anything that casts a bad light on their progress, just happy talk about reductions without data.