Elon & Twitter

[texas_star_TM3]

twitter is free to direct folks in the app to their website and collect payment information there, process the payment and provide subscription management and the account bought on their website can then be used in the app... totally legal... but the conversation rate hit will be more than off-setting any 30% cut they have to pay apple for appstore payments with credit card on file and tied to an apple ID and Apple subscription management...

and talking about fat margins... what are the margins for software unlocked acceleration boost and FSD? gotta be close to 100% since the technology is already built in the vehicle...

 

[ElectricIAC]

Apple is smart. That’s how they became a love brand. Tesla is trying hard to take the other lane. Elon cannot take on everyone.

Love brand?

 

[Singuy]

Apple is smart. That’s how they became a love brand. Tesla is trying hard to take the other lane. Elon cannot take on everyone.

Apple is pretty high up there as one of the most hated tech brand along with Tesla

Haters Gonna Hate: The Most-Despised Tech Brands

Negative sentiment abounds for Microsoft, Netflix, and even Lego! Who else makes the list?

www.pcmag.com

 

[bkp_duke]

Apple is pretty high up there as one of the most hated tech brand along with Tesla

Haters Gonna Hate: The Most-Despised Tech Brands

Negative sentiment abounds for Microsoft, Netflix, and even Lego! Who else makes the list?

www.pcmag.com

Yeah, I have a personal beef with Apple (won't go into it here). You won't see any of their products in our household.

 

[ElectricIAC]

Apple is pretty high up there as one of the most hated tech brand along with Tesla

Haters Gonna Hate: The Most-Despised Tech Brands

Negative sentiment abounds for Microsoft, Netflix, and even Lego! Who else makes the list?

www.pcmag.com

I like Apple as much as their products are functional to me. All I can say is I’ve never had my phone app crash on me on an Apple phone.

That was the “no more” moment for me with an Android.

 

[texas_star_TM3]

Apple is 4x the market cap of Tesla and has resources Tesla can only dream of. Meanwhile Elon acts like he can do Tesla/SpaceX/FSD and twitter and on top of that create an Apple 2.0 ... lol.

 

[Singuy]

what's the profit margin for FSD? 99% ?

Tesla build 100% of the FSD and should take 100% of the profit.

Apple didn't build a single line of Twitter code but gets 30% of their profit.

Maybe you can spot the difference.

Of course it shouldn't be free as there's high maintenance cost for apple to keep their servers online, but is 30% of the revenue the right number?

 

[hndmountains]

what's the profit margin for FSD? 99% ?

The profit margin of FSD = FSD sold - total hardware cost - development/research cost
If Tesla is making much money with the currently not really working FSD, Elon is really a marketing genius.

 

[texas_star_TM3]

Tesla build 100% of the FSD and should take 100% of the profit.

Apple didn't build a single line of Twitter code but gets 30% of their profit.

Maybe you can spot the difference.

Of course it shouldn't be free as there's high maintenance cost for apple to keep their servers online, but is 30% of the revenue the right number?

Walmart and Best Buy don't write software or produce frozen lasagne either... welcome to the world of retail

 

[trayloader]

It is virtually impossible to make third ecosystem with phones. Microsoft and Nokia tried it with billions and it failed miserably.

Two years ago the phone would’ve gone through the roof. Now Apple could wait on the sidelines for the drama killing this idea.

 

[Singuy]

I like Apple as much as their products are functional to me. All I can say is I’ve never had my phone app crash on me on an Apple phone.

That was the “no more” moment for me with an Android.

People generally likes the product but hates the control the company exerts on their buyers. This is what building an enclosed ecosystem will do. Not saying Tesla is any better in this aspect.

 

[ZenRockGarden]

twitter is free to direct folks in the app to their website and collect payment information there, process the payment and provide subscription management and the account bought on their website can then be used in the app... totally legal... but the conversation rate hit will be more than off-setting any 30% cut they have to pay apple for appstore payments with credit card on file and tied to an apple ID and Apple subscription management...

and talking about fat margins... what are the margins for software unlocked acceleration boost and FSD? gotta be close to 100% since the technology is already built in the vehicle...

Actually although Twitter customers _can_ go to the web and pay there, if you tell them about doing that in the app, or give them a link to jump out of the app to pay on the web Apple will ban your app.

Yes, that's pretty evil of Apple, and even treads into free speech. That said, it's Apple's eco system, their private roads, their rules

 

[TN Mtn Man]

This is a slippery slope. Tesla supporters should not be tainting other car companies like this on Twitter. They should just ignore Alyssa Milano. VW’s emission cheating scandal is fair game but bringing up things that happened almost a century ago that have been acknowledged and litigated is unnecessary. It’s in no one’s best interest

Agreed, Milano's post really is a fast head start down that slippery slope. The idiotic part is her trying to equate restoring accounts banned for political reasons with Nazis. Disgusting and uncalled for. But not surprising-its the first thing those that can't make a rational argument do-call names.

Twitter is now finally suspending the accounts of some domestic terrorists that used the platform to instigate and coordinate attacks on the American public. And those that are the first to claim "Antifa is just an idea" are now complaining that "Antifa accounts" are being suspended. Tying to understand how you can ban "just an idea".

 

[Singuy]

Walmart and Best Buy don't write software or produce frozen lasagne either... welcome to the world of retail

Their fees are 6-15% tho. So it's a matter of what is a fair price.

 

[Beltsbear]

Apple is pretty high up there as one of the most hated tech brand along with Tesla

Haters Gonna Hate: The Most-Despised Tech Brands

Negative sentiment abounds for Microsoft, Netflix, and even Lego! Who else makes the list?

www.pcmag.com

That list is absurd. And I would not call being in position 14 a hated company.. Tesla is in number 10. And Verizon and Comcast ARE NOT ON IT. Uber is the most hated tech company?
Again. absurd. Totally worthless. Must be the most flawed research ever.

 

[Singuy]

That list is absurd. And I would not call being in position 14 a hated company.. Tesla is in number 10. And Verizon and Comcast ARE NOT ON IT. Uber is the most hated tech company?
Again. absurd. Totally worthless. Must be the most flawed research ever.

Yes remember the entire debacle about Uber not paying their drivers as W2 employees and our political Karens made a huge deal about it? That's how they became hated...because they "don't pay their employees correctly".

Remember that "hated" doesn't mean the products suck, but who gets punched in the face for political points around the time of these surveys.

 

[DeepFrz]

Damn, I'm going to have to take a speed reading course to keep up.

For anyone interested Pyotr Kurzin is having a conversation with A. Vindman on twitter. I think it is over but has been recorded. Lets see if my post is removed when I post the link to the twitter thread.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597281392014295040

 

[Bouba]

And so is Coke, Pepsi and Heineken...what do these haters drink?

 

[ElectricIAC]

Whoo!

 

[AudubonB]

Good question, @Bouba . Jack Daniel's mixed with a vegan kombucha?